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anything I can mix in?

Well I got sand and I kind of like it! but I hear plants don't like to grow in sand. is there any fert that i can mix in with the sand to make plants happy? preferably something white or gray or black. and somethgin that is not too large so i will blend in with the sand easily.
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Well I got sand and I kind of lick it!
Well....I don't know what you're doing, but I eat my sand!
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Well....I don't know what you're doing, but I eat my sand!
ah! you are right it is a good gut declogger.
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nothign at all can be mixed in?
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Plants will grow fine in sand, as long as the grain size isn't too small. Too small means it packs down hard, and gets sour under the surface. Just rely on water column fertilizing and maybe some root tabs for the heavy rooted plants, and you should do fine without mixing anything in. If you do want to mix in something, any of the commercial substrates would work.

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mm.. well I have play sand.. it seems decently fine.. I just have to stir it up every once in a while I am told. maybe a bunch of flurish tablets will get things rotting in nicely.
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What is sold as play sand is usually too fine grained. Home Depot sells quartz sand for making concrete, etc. and it is not so fine grained. (Concrete needs sand that doesn't affect water chemistry just as we do.)

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If you take little blobs of garden clay and mix with a bit of water, put them in your freezer, you can push these under the roots of heavy root feeders like swords and crypts for a bit of a boost. The freezing keeps them from messing your water on the way down.


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If you take little blobs of garden clay and mix with a bit of water, put them in your freezer, you can push these under the roots of heavy root feeders like swords and crypts for a bit of a boost. The freezing keeps them from messing your water on the way down.
I see.. anythign else that i could mixe in with the garde clay?
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Nah, not really - and you'll want to use it sparingly. Clay should have plenty of iron and other organics and macros. Laterite is a common additive to mix with gravel, but it is essentially just clay. Only use this under heavy feeders too - you're not going to want to do this all over.


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mm.. I see.. what abouty carpeting plants?
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Carpeting plants are mostly stems which can take the majority of their nutrients from the water column. If you're worried about it you might try Hoppy's suggestion and mix in any of the commercial substrates (ecoComplete, ADA, Flourite, etc.)


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i will see hwo they do on their own for a bit.. but I am worried about hardening sand.. anything I can get that will dig into sand?
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i will see hwo they do on their own for a bit.. but I am worried about hardening sand.. anything I can get that will dig into sand?
Malaysian Trumpet Snails (MTS) will do a good job of aerating the substrate.

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The newer Ecocomplete is pretty close to sand in size and will mix in fine I believe. If its a little bigger all the better, more air between grains mixed. But beware a rise in GH and such with new Eco as it almost always happens - even though Caribsea advertises it as inert. Nice jet black color too.





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