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New tank, Eco-complete - horrible problems

I've set up a 25g tank 2 weeks ago using Eco-complete for the first time. This substrate has created nothing but hell for my tank. The kH out of the tap is less than 1. With this stuff, my kH slowly goes way past 12-13 degrees after 4-5 days. I've already drained and filled the tank 4 or 5 times and the same thing happens over and over again. Algae is going insane and I'm not foreseeing adding fish to this mess anytime in the future.

I've never seen anything remotely like this in the 10 years of setting up numerous tanks, the only thing that is different this time around is this substrate. Any ideas on how I can battle the hardness problems or should I just throw this stuff out and stick to fluorite that I've been using all along?
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Interesting, I have eco and it dose buff the water a little in the beginning not nearly that much. Do you have any other rock in the tank? Are you adding CO2 and how much light over the tank. What are you adding to the tank as far a chemicals?


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I've set up a 25g tank 2 weeks ago using Eco-complete for the first time. This substrate has created nothing but hell for my tank. The kH out of the tap is less than 1. With this stuff, my kH slowly goes way past 12-13 degrees after 4-5 days. I've already drained and filled the tank 4 or 5 times and the same thing happens over and over again. Algae is going insane and I'm not foreseeing adding fish to this mess anytime in the future.

I've never seen anything remotely like this in the 10 years of setting up numerous tanks, the only thing that is different this time around is this substrate. Any ideas on how I can battle the hardness problems or should I just throw this stuff out and stick to fluorite that I've been using all along?
Yeah, there have been some BIG inconsistencies with Eco lately. I had the same thing happen. I threw out at least one bag, cause it took for ever to flatten out. In fact it never did... I ended up using some with half other inert gravel in a Cherry shrimp tank. After a few months I think its finally closer to inert. I don't buy anything from Caribsea anymore. Sorry for you trouble. Been there too.

BTW. You could email Caribsea and they might replace it free. They are pretty good that way, but their QC stinks.





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I am using a pressurized system. In order to keep the pH in the 6.8 level I have to crank the bubble count up. I have no other substrate/rock in the tank. As for chemicals I've added only my PMDD dose like I always have. I normally try to add a bit of gH booster since that is zero out of the tap as well, but I'm wondering if I keep that higher if it will help maintain a more solid kH? I sent an email to caribsea about the problem, we'll see if they have any ideas on how to resolve the matter.
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Welllll, I have Eco-Complete substrate in my 55. When messing about with the plants, uprooting, re-planting and so forth, I have had shells pop up out of the substrate. I'm absolutely positive I didn't put them there, so I can only assume they were mixed in with the Eco-Complete. And of course they're going to buffer the water over time.

Another person here who will not buy Eco-Complete in future.

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There's definately white flakes in the substrate that look like crushed shells. Now why would they put crushed shells (CaCO3) in with the mix doesn't make sense to me and why would they write on the bag that it does not raise kH or pH?
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Tony, might be easiest to yank the substrate. I've had to do that with Eco, as I said before. And my guess (total hearsay, BTW) is that I read somewhere that Caribsea use to keep their substrate outside in a yard. And they make a lot of reef substrates. They are in Florida. Hurricanes might equal contamination. That said, Caribsea has been good about replacing "corrupted" substrate. There is a long thread, actually a couple on this same topic, should you care to search.





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