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ADA Aqua Soil - How Long Before Tank Clears

I added just under 9 liters of Amazonia Aqua Soil to my 10 gallon tank on Monday evening and it was very cloudy and still was the next morning when I left for a 2 day business trip in Maine and when I returned today, it's still cloudy! Anyone else having this problem?

The bag says not to wash it, so I didn't but now I'm wondering if it's a mistake to not rinse it somewhat. When I went to put a stem in the soil, it kicked up a cloud of dust, which leads me to believe there's going to be a problem every time I try to clean the tank.

The soil itself feels wonderful, it just grabs hold of the stems and holds the plant right in place. I would like to be able to see the plants in the back and also my fish, as I'm concerned that the PH is rather low and that it's also going to create another cycle.

Any ideas on how I can clear it out? I have an Aqua Clean HOB filter, I believe it's a 50, I use to run it on my 29 gallon tank, so it's powerful enough.

Thoughts, advice are great appreciated!
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Drain the tank and refill it slowly- Use a plate to minimize splashing on the substrate. If its been cloudy for a few days now- that could be the start of green water.

BTW-is the tank planted? or is it just the substrate right now?


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It's planted, I just added a few more plants. No CO2 on this tank though, I dose Seachem Excel. I also just upgraded the lights to two screw in compact flourescents, 19 watts, which gives me 38 watts over a 10 gallon. That's only medium light though, I shouldn't be getting green water. Actually the water is gray.

I better dose a small amount of ferts, damn I wish it would clear up. I did a 50% water change a little while ago and it's still cloudy, can hardly see the heater or back plants. I can't see the glass at all.
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No it's planted, I just added a few more plants. It's not green water though, it's gray.

I better dose some ferts, damn I wish it would clear up. I did a 50% water change a little while ago and it's still cloudy, can hardly see the heater or back plants. I can't see the glass at all.
Green water starts out gray.

You dont need to add ferts- there are plenty of ferts in the soil itself. Thats the best part about AS.


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I thought so but wasn't sure if it was the Aqua Soil or the Power Sand that contained the ferts, glad I didn't add any. I did add some Excel.

If it's green water, would my adding the Aqua Soil have caused it? Maybe my upgrading the lights from 11 watts to 19 watts? Hmm, I'll have to go and read up on how to get rid of it, other than going out and buying a diatom filter.

I can actually see the dust blowing around in the tank, it's like smoke. So should I wait it out, any suggestions?
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drain the water down to like 20 percent and refill it back up. Aquasoil does tend to cloud the tank. Aditionally it will turn the water brownish for a few weeks.


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I have had the same experience as ianiwane. The Aqua Soil clouded the water for a short period of time, but it did clear up.

Frequent water changes are a good thing with a new aqua Soil /Power Sand set up. Also, run the aquarium lean on fertilizers for a while.

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Do a 50% water change for a week everyday. This is what all the Japanese Planted tank shops tell me, and it works will!
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Great, thank you all for responding, it's nice to know that I'm not the only one this is happening to. Everyone has been saying how it does not cloud the tank but I beg to differ on that one. I will also need to be doing frequent water changes to prevent the tank from going through another heavy cycle.
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I didn't find the aquarium water to be clouded as much as it was "tinged".

In my case it wasn't as if there were bits of substrate dust floating about for days. It was more like the way water that is holding tannins from a piece of driftwood appears.

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With mine it looks like smoke is floating around in there, like a puff of dust from the subtrate. When I put a stem in the soil, if I don't do it very easily, a puff of dust comes out of the soil, hope it's not always going to be this way, I'm hoping it will calm down soon.

I am leaving work shortly and going home to do another 50% water change.
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Did the water clear up?


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are you dosing excel by the bottle's recommendation, or more? an excel overdose can produce cloudy water that looks almost identical to the beginning stages of green water. excel is interesting and versatile stuff, but when it comes to a regular carbon source for my plants, i really only trust CO2. i wouldn't even mess with the yeast stuff anymore, just get a co2 tank and be done with all the mess [or continued expense as is the case with Excel]. pressurized co2 is much cheaper in the long run, with a 10 lb. bottle around $8-$10 to refill.

if you are dosing per the instructions then it probably is just the substrate...

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I just changed over to Aquasoil 4 days ago and I have noticed the same problem. The water almost appears smokey, where my return water enters the tank you can see it as if you were blowing clean air into a smokey room.
Can anybody recomend how long and how much,you want to hold back the ferts if dosing EI?
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Honestly Ive got 2- 10 gal tanks with 100 watts over each tank- no ferts for nearly 2 months.

I would say- concentrate on the co2 and then worry about the ferts after that.


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