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Question Advice Needed: Old/Depleted Substrate

What should I do to old soil substrate ? Revive or replace the whole subs ?

The soil based nutrient is greatly depleted after 1.5 year. I heard there is an injection technique to revive but I doubt it is practical. Please advise.
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in my unprofessional opinion, i would bite the bullet and just buy new substrate. really i think it depends on what your substrate cleaning method is and what type of filter you have. is it UGF or up top? if it's a UGF, i wouldn't want to go through the hassel of pretty much shutting down your whole tank to switch it, so that obscure injection technique might be a little more expensive, but probably less work in the long run. also, i use regular medium rock substrate in a low-med light tank, but if you replace your substrate with flourite and/or soil, that would take longer than it would take me because you have to rinse it more thoroughly and worry about cloudy water etc. my word is definitely pretty far from gospel, but i thought i'd add some kind of input.
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my vote is to replace it.....there are so many good substrates to choose from...just do some research and choose something to your liking....i use eco complete , but if i were to redo my tank i think i would try ada aqua soil....i

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the two most poular ones i have seen and used both are the eco-complete, and flourite... i really like the look of the all black easy to use eco-complete, just cut open the bag , and pour it in , no rinsing it off , and its wet , leave the water with it ...

now for the flourite.. i have it in my 10 gallon , and getting to the point where i dont like it at all, it looks weird , kinda like crushed bricks with bits of black , and orange in it . i knew i had seen something like this before , and that was when i went out for a mexican dinner , and had way too many corona's and wound up launching in the parking lot (that is what flourite reminds me of now ). you have to rinse this stuff for hours depending on how big a tank you got , but i did my 1 bag of flourite for the 10 gallon and rinsed it for like 3 hours, and it still clouded my tank for 3 days ... the fish were fine in it after the first 24 hours.. but it was too much of a pain for me to use this again , and i will probably wind up replacing it in my 10 gallon, here goes substrate replacement # 2 .. i am just in love with the eco.. its is easy to plant into , and looks great being all black on the bottom of any tank.. i used 3 bags for my 50 gallon , and it is doin great.
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Thanks guys for valuable input. Ya, I would like to have Eco-complete but it is not available locally. I am limited to ADA soil or Red Sea or "local real aquatic soil" (which is the old substrate now).

Reason I don't want to replace:
Plain ADA Soil has limited nutrient. I will need to add Power Soil which is much tooooo costly if I want a long term rich substrate. Mixed feedback from ADA users further discourage me. I know I can have a very succesful tank with everything ADAs but I don't enjoy Amano emptying my savings.

My friend with just Deponix Mix (RM200.00 / 4 = ~$50 USD), can still enjoy his 3 feet Tonina FOREST after 1.5 year, and still going strong.
With just sand + Dennerle, Hagen liquid Fe fertilizer, CO2, high light and that's it! No ADA Soil, Power Sand, Power Soil, Penac, bla, bla, bla.
He has less algae problem also.
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i dunno...ive been doin a lotta reading on using aquasoil and from what i gather ...there are more people happy with it than not......

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