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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 06-01-2006, 08:48 AM Thread Starter
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I am in the process of setting up a 47G here in England and am looking in to getting the best substrate for the best price.

I have found a supplier of ADA AQUASOIL and am trying to figure out how much i will need for a 3-4 inch layer in a tank that is 101cm long and 41cm deep to see if this works out cheaper.

Also if i want to layer POWER SAND with the AQUASOIL would i just substitute a bag of the soil for a bag of the sand?
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I believe 3 or 4 9 liter bags would do it for normal amazonia and maybe a bag of power sand special, but a word of caution on the power sand...

I wouldn't use it in a tank that isn't going to be somewhat untouched in terms of replanting and moving stuff around. If this is a "show" tank that will remain fairly static in terms of planting, fine, use it, and only but it in the back, and do not extend it to the sides. Stay about 3" from the left, right, and front of the tank with it.

Also, I don't know how much you know about ADA products, but power sand isn't sand. It is small pumice type material, slightly smaller than a common marble. Their decorative sand is more like beach type sand...


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Thanks for the reply, I will take the power sand under advisement then as im sure I will be constantly moving things around.
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basically, one 9-liter bag of AS is the same as two bags of flourite. DO NOT use the power sand - it is big and lighter in color and will always always work itself up to the surface, spoiling the effect. You get the same benefit sprinkling the bottom with a little peat.
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a lot of people in our club using powersand put a stainless steel mesh (similar to galvanized metal screen) inbetween the aquasoil and powersand to avoid pulling up the powersand.


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The mesh sounds like a good idea on the surface, but I wonder what do you do if plant roots get under and around the mesh?

How do the members of your club address that issue?

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simply tug gently and trim the roots that get caught up in the mesh.
Easy peasy.
However, in a tank I had setup prior to the notion of using the mesh with aquasoil and powersand, I initially had a problem with the powersand coming up during replanting, but now its just not an issue (just doesn't come up to the surface, not sure why).

mesh works good, some will say powersand is a waste of money.... although im not gonna get in the middle of that arguement again.


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did I say arguement??

I really meant discussion.


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"Debate" is better.

Why not place the PS is a mesh bag?
Why does it need to be mesh SS?
Anything that will prevent it pulling up is doable that does not rot.

My question is why even bother with that whole issue to begin with?
No one's shown that it does really help any more than adding KNO3 which does not require SS nor cost much.

Simpler solution.

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Annual breakdown

I read on another site that the Aquasoil breaks down and needs to be replaced every year or so, Is that true?
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it most defintely does break down.... the exact time frame over which the transformation occurs? Not sure.


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it most defintely does break down.... the exact time frame over which the transformation occurs? Not sure.
See, now I have heard the opposite.

Can we get Jeff Senske to weigh in on this one?

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ADA aquasoil will break down with excessive pressure on it. If you take some and squeeze it in your hand it will crumble. In the tank if there is not alot of disturbing of the substrate it should last for quite some time. How long? Who knows I guess that depends on what the substrate has to go through.


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I have to agree with Andrew and I use it in all my tanks. It does break down, but it may take more than a several years to do it. Chiahead is right as well, I think it will last longer the less you disturb it.


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I will take some pics of the substrate in the process of breaking down later tonight if I remember. The individual "grains" are indeed soft, and can easily be squished between fingers into little pancakes. Two grains can be smooshed into 1 as well, to try and give you an idea as to the texture. I have been using aquasoil for about, 7 or 8 months, and the breakdown is clearly visible in the front of the tank, about 1" below the surface.

Whether or not the beneficial properties of the aquasoil on our plants are effected by the physical properties of the actual soil, who knows, I kinda doubt it. It seems more likely to me it has to do with what the plants have removed from the substrate via feeding. But, the physical properties of the soil itself seem to already be changing.


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