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Is there a to fine of a sand?

The tank is 2.5 gallons. The sand is white and very very fine. I have two plants and some shrimp in the tank and plan to add more and some shrimp.
My question is. Can plants be grown in this sand and can it harm shrimp or snails?

Water is cloudy from starting cycle not particulates

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you'll prolly have to dose nutrients for the plants. it won't harm the shrimp or snails
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What kind of sand is it, and where did you get it ?

The shrimp & snails will be fine, but you'll likely need to use root tab ferts to grow your rooted plants.

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This sand. Will feet tabs harm shrimp and snails. I would ei dose but dosing a 2.5 tank with anything alive makes me nervous.

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Root tab ferts will not harm shrimp or snails.
EI dosing will not introduce anything alive into your tank, so you don't need to be nervous about it.
I see the sand is labeled "Nature's Ocean" - but I've never heard of it and still do not know what kind of sand it is. Is it mainly for marine tanks ?
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It's very very fine. I'm guessing its marine sand but is that an issue for my plants? It says aragonite sand from the ocean. It's been heat cleaned says the package.
The ei dosing with anything alive I meant live animals in tank. I have the dry ferts to ei dose. I have them for my 40 gal planted but for a 2.5 I'd be nervous killing stuff
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Re: Is there a to fine of a sand?

Aragonite sand is calcium carbonate. Most of our shrimp require pH on the acid side. This will raise the pH quite high.

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If your tank isn't cycled, you'll need to remove the livestock. Shrimp are super-sensitive when it comes to ammonia and nitrite and they need a well-established tank to live well.

You'll also want to heed Rob in Puyallup's advice. If that's aragonite, you're going to have a pH and hardness that could end up being too high for even basic Cherry Shrimp. Using an inert sand would be a better option.


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I just noticed I said I have shrimp in it. I ment snails and plan to add shrimp. It's not cycled though but I did use water from my planted tank I took a bio bag from my 20 gallon and placed it in the tank and a air stone on opposite side to aid circulation so it should cycle quickly.

Ill check the ph as Rob sugests. Is there any sand that is like the one I have in there that's not aragonite? I really like the look of it.
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I'm no expert, but I think a lot of folks use "pool filter sand". I think silica sand is the type of sand that you want. Silica sand is available in a bright white color, but you might have trouble finding it.

I know glassblowers use high purity (low iron) silica, but it may be ground too fine for an aquarium. It comes in various "mesh" sizes, I have some 200 mesh and it is fine like flour. You can find silica at pottery supply companies.
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Note that using water from an established tank doesn't do much for bacteria population. Bacteria grow on surfaces and very little of what you're looking for will be present in the water column. Moving filter media from an established tank will speed things up.

You should be able to pick up inert white sand at any pet shop. Or spend $5 to buy 50 pounds of pool filter sand.


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Yes, there is sand that is too fine. Silt is one type. Any sand that is 1mm or less. Such a fine sand can compact do to settling the build up of detritis and over time not allowing water to circulate.

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