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Creek sand safe to use ?

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On my property is a small creek running through it and it has a sand floor bed.
I was thinking of using it in a new tank im setting up.

Would it be safe to use on top of a bed of flourite in a planted tank ?
Or would i need a more coarse sand ?


Thanks for any advice !
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It would work but bear in mind that the sand will eventually settle on the bottom. Instead why not divide the tank to have a nice sand foreground and the background be Fluorite for growing plants?

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I would not do it if you plan on adding fish that didn't come from the same water supply... there can be a ton of creepy crawlies in that water. Not just parasites, but bacteria too. One little bird dropping disolved in that stream and your fish could end up toast. Be very careful. Its probaly 50/50 that you'll be fine, but you can get play sand or pool filter sand for $3.00 for a 50lb bag at home depot. I wouldn't risk the potential for contamination with unknown biological hazards.
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But then would you be able to grow plants in the sand only front(since there is no flourite) ?

Can you use flourite on its own as a gravel or is it better to have it covered by a gravel/sand ?
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I would not do it if you plan on adding fish that didn't come from the same water supply... there can be a ton of creepy crawlies in that water. Not just parasites, but bacteria too. One little bird dropping disolved in that stream and your fish could end up toast. Be very careful. Its probaly 50/50 that you'll be fine, but you can get play sand or pool filter sand for $3.00 for a 50lb bag at home depot. I wouldn't risk the potential for contamination with unknown biological hazards.
So even if the sand was washed in a mix of water and bleach you still wouldnt consider it clean ?
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A thorough washing would make it safe.

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yes, bleaching would work, but you might also consider boiling the stuff for a long time to disinfect it. that way you don't have to worry about dechlorinating the sand, which might prove very difficult. bleach likes to stick to stuff, and rocks are notoriously difficult to rinse free of bleach. I would probably do bleach, but I'd use almost a whole bottle of dechlor on it to be sure that it was safe. With boiling, you'll kill the same stuff as the bleach, and once it's rinsed and cool, it can go in the tank. I've actually wanted some creek / river "sand" for a long time, but all the bodies of water around here are just muddy-bottomed. I'd like something the color of exo-terra "river sand" marketed for turtle tanks (a nice dark brown). play sand and / or pool sand are nice enough, but the color is almost painful to me. way too bright! black sand is also nice, but a bit unnatural looking. a nice deep brown from a nice silty creek would be gorgeous! you can add substrate fertilizer to the sandy front if you want, but if your water column is dosed appropriately, it's not necessary. search around here for more info

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I highly doubt there are a lot of Home Depots in Australia.

Chances are the sand may just be too fine to use. See my Guide for a photo of the minimum grain size one would want to use.

Also if you are going to cap another larger grained substrate then the larger grains will eventually work their way to the top.
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Rex is probably right, the sand itself likely sucks at planting......that's why I'm suggesting dividing the tank to make a nice sand foreground.

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