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Prepping Safe T Sorb?

So I just got two 40lb bags of Safe T sorb for my 75 gallon, and poured it into a tub and I was amazed of how dusty this stuff is. I haven't started rinsing it yet but it seems like it would take forever. So I was wondering what kind of method people use to clean/rinse it.
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I rinsed all of mine with a strainer to get a lot of the really small particles and dust out. Supposedly it will always cloud a little when disturbed. Mine is currently in a preparation tank, getting prefertilized. Without any filtration it cleared itself up in about 2 days.
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I was in the exact same spot as you about a month ago. I put it in my tank, filled with water about 4" over the substrate and then siphoned off 5 gal, added 5 gal and repeat. Did this for about... 200+ gallons and it still clouds up whenever I do any major moving. I'd suggest saving your back and finding some way, ANY way to clean it before putting it in the tank as it was certainly more work than I expected.

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I put it in the tank dry, then rinsed it in the tank.
Twice filling the tank less than halfway, and deliberately stirring up the STS to make as much mess as possible. Empty by placing the siphon at the very bottom of the tank, moving away the substrate from a corner to make room for the siphon.
On the final refill I put the STS bag (empty) in the tank and refilled by slowly running the water in over the bag.

It was slightly hazy, but I would have added the fish if the filters had been cycled.
I started the fishless cycle, and a day later the water was almost perfectly clear.

When I rearranged the rocks, making quite a mess, it settled very fast, and was again clear by the next day.
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Yeah, I'm in my fishless cycle now too, and when I re-arranged my rocks it had cleared by the next morning.

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I think I'll just use a strainer, and since it settles pretty quick I'll probably rinse it like 10 times until it runs clear or so I can at least see through it. Also, I'm layering my substrates so the STS will be on the bottom, then eco-complete and then black diamond sand on the very top. I'll be adding oscomote capsules and root tabs to help growth. Is this a good idea?

Btw is using a pillowcase okay?
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So, this is after about an hour's worth of rinsing and I'm not seeing much of an improvement. This is only one of the bags which is 40lbs. What should I do next
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It will slowly get better. After a long time I finally said "good enough" and like I said, even after I disturb it now it settles rather quickly.

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Prepping Safe T Sorb?

Excel clarity and filter floss is what I used
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I just rinse it a few times, put it in the tank and then slowly add water. Clears up with a sponge filter running in under an hour.

With any clay/dirt-based substrate, there tends to be clouding if it's disturbed too much. So just work slowly with it and you won't run into problems.


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Sts isn't made to stay together.
It is made to suck up water, oil, whatever and break down.
What you see is the Sts sucking up water like a sponge would.
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If you ever dump clay into your tanks, you'll notice water hazing up.

This is normal as ats is entirely made of baked clay. Rinsing will eliminate the fine particles a bit. You can always run a filter after several sifts to help with water clarity.


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I used the technique shown in this video to add STS to my tank.


I used a 2 liter coke bottle with its larger mouth. While I got a little cloudiness, it disappeared within a few hours.

This was a fish-in substrate change. I used a siphon to suck out all the old substrate into a bucket and then used the coke bottle to add the STS. I didnt even rinse the STS. The fish hardly noticed anything had happened.
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When I was rinsing the flourite, I was doing it in small batches. At most just enough to cover the bottom of a 5 gal bucket about half an inch.

After 6-7 times of adding water, stir violently, and drain; it was still cloudy but able to see the substrate finally.

If it's something that wasn't labeled for aquarium use for STS or whatever, I'd feel better rinsing it first.
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I rinsed mine a few times in a 5g bucket and then gave up.

Added to the tank, filled slowly.
It was cloudy for a few hours. But by next morning it was all gone. And crystal clear

Just more careful when planting and working near the susbtrate.

No way your ever going rinse it all out.
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