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can sombody tell me what this substrate is like,is it a gravel like flourite is it little gravel big gravel?jus thinking of gettn some for a futurer tank and would like to know more about..
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resembles crushed lava rock.
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Crushed Lava rock. It doesn't have nutrients in it, rather it retains and holds on to them so plants can utilize them. I love the look of it though.


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This is what it looks like in my 5G betta tank:

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Looks good, works good from what I have seen so far....no nutrients, but it does well with grabbing nutrients from the water column, it has good CEC from what I'm aware of
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Test carefully for increased GH and KH before adding sensitive shrimp or plants. I have unexplained increases over tap water after a recent addition.

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Its mainly black, but has some red and brownish/gray rocks mixed in.
It is lava rock, so it is pretty light. Go for a deep bed of substrate, i have a pico with about an inch of eco, and it doesnt hold the plants great. My 10g with 2-3" of eco holds plants much much better.
The pebbles are not uniform in size like fluval stratum or ada soil




I think there are better choices, but over all i am satisfied with eco complete.
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If you're going to get it, I would suggest getting it in locally so you can see it. I had two bags in a tank that looked nice with only the occasional orange/red piece. Then I bought a bunch online for a large tank and it looked... different. It was very fine and had a lot of color variation even though it was labeled the same. The overall effect was that it looked like dirt when you stood back from the tank. Some might like it, but I wasn't a fan.


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just planted a 55 gallon tank with this. id say i put in around 25 jungle vals. just have to make sure there is a decent depth of substrate where youre planting just like any other substrate. i like it better than the fluval plant stratum im using at home.


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I have it and have used it for years, though I really dont like it. There are far beter substraights for the money. You will have an increass in your ph as this product will buffer up even though the company claims it is inert. Mine buffered for about a year before it finnaly stablized. If your not teying to keep discus or low ph fish or shrimp other then cherries you will be fine.

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I have this and like it. I liked that I didn't have to rinse it (= Although it can be a pain to keep new plants with no roots in it. They don't like to stay in there but it can be done.
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I have had good luck with it so far. I don't like the larger size of the pieces, but the plants I have growing in it are really thriving. I use root tabs and column ferts with it, and honestly, I think it's my most prolific tank, plant-wise. It is a complete PITA to keep it planted, though, if you're trying to place stem plants or the like. Once they root it's not a problem, though.
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I use it, it works, probably not the best thing in the world but it gets the job done.
Do yourself a favor though, and buy more of the stuff than you think your tank is going to need, because you will surprise yourself when you are planting stems and feeling the bottom of the tank before you are satisfied with how deep you got the stem down.

Also, I definitely recommend root tabs and dosing. From what I have gathered, it seems that eco-complete has no nutrients of its own, but does a grand job of absorbing nutrients that you place into the tank, allowing plant roots to absorb them.

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I have it also. Looks ok, but terrible at holding plants in, especially ground cover plants. Probably won't use it again for this reason.
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my experience:

it does not have fertilizer added to it, it is simply high in CEC which is good but still not the best substrate out there, you can put your money on aqua soil for better results. with eco complete i had plant melting most of the time and increase in KH/GH all the time, i gave up and threw it outside in my yard, now it makes a good garden soil for my outdoor plants.

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