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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 08-29-2012, 05:03 PM Thread Starter
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Eco complete is a PITA - insert a plant, 2 more let go and float!

That is all - had to be said.


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I'd love to know a solution to this as well. If the plant has a nice root ball it isn't a problem but cut stems and stuff like hairgrass is near impossible.
I have some aquascape tweezers from ebay that I use sometimes, but I have more luck with fingers I know there are super-fine point tweezers that are out there, maybe that is the solution?
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lol i think this is why i finally gave up on stem plants and went totally with rooted plants, i do feel your pain.
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How deep of a substrate do you have?

Anything less than 2" will not suffice for planting stems. If you're good with a pinsett tweezer, you'll probably get away with it, otherwise you'll need more than 2" of substrate for planting stems.


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Yup, eco-complete is the worst for planting. Aquasoil, on the other hand, is the best; just push it in.


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That is all - had to be said.


try a thin layer of plaster first :P sorry for the off topic
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Yup, eco-complete is the worst for planting. Aquasoil, on the other hand, is the best; just push it in.
Doesn't that stuff turn to mush after a while and you have to redo the tank?


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Doesn't that stuff turn to mush after a while and you have to redo the tank?

that was the case with the old formula, not so much with the NEW.


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Put the stems in at an angle, then put a rock (1" -2" diameter) on them until they root.
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Can I use Aquasoil as a base with a gravel-type substrate over it, or just use the Aquasoil by itself?
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Im a fan, never had any problems with it holding plants. Im going to guess that you dont have a deep enough bed or arent pushing plants down deep enough.


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Yes, you need more than 2inches deep and try with pincettes while supporting the top of the plant with the other hand. Plant 2-3 stems at a time. Pinch base of stem with pincet and push down into the soil at an angle while using the other hand to support and guide the plants into the soil. Hope this make sense.
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I cannot speak for Aquasoil, but this happens with most any clay gravel, or volcanic rock gravel substrate. It is not unique to Eco Complete. The gravel is lighter at first because it contains oxygen. It gets heavier over time as it absorbs gunk.

The problem is usually temporary if you are a little patient. Once the stems become rooted its no longer an issue. Until then, you can plant the stems deeper, or put some larger pebbles around the stems to hold them down for a couple weeks. If your stems are not taking root, then you have other problems.

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I do as Diana suggested and it works great
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