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my noob substrate question.

Well I have a 29 gal tank and 6 bags of substrate 3 bags of eco-complete 2.5 bags of fora-max how much do I need for this tank .
Should I mix the two?

Do you rise it off before you put it in the tank or just let it settle?



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The three bags of Eco complete is all you need.
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Don't rinse, put the Eco in and fill Er up!
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Thank now do you plant before all the water is in or wait.

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I fill half way and then plant. This allows easy access to the substrate while still providing support to the plants.
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Put the eco complete in the tank. Fill with water then do a water change. That will remove that first bit of cloudiness you will get.

As far as planting with or without water, it's basically a personal choice. I prefer to plant with water in the tank, but if you're planting a bunch of small plants for a ground cover, it's probably easier to do those without the water or with less than a full tank of water.

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Thanks. My sons tank seem to be running high on the Nitrate using the Flura_Max and I've changed the water twice since the levels have risen and I also lowered the amount of feed the fish have been getting to see if that would help but nope. Is this some thing that is expected with a new planted tank cause of the substrate?

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No, the nitrates wouldn't be coming from the substrate. It's more likely that he either has a dead fish in the tank or is overfeeding the fish. Overfeeding is a very common way to cause excess nitrates. The uneaten food (or the eaten food that's been excreted by the fish) turn into ammonia in the tank, and the tank's bacteria process the ammonia into nitrites and then into nitrates. So the more food put in the tank, the more nitrates you'll have.

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Sorry to hijack this thread, but I don't want to clog up the forum with more noob Qs.

I bought Fluorite on my 5 gallon, and I used a plastic bag to cover it, before I put water in it. There seems to be some white sand in there with it, and the water's still cloudy after 2 days and a water change. Is this to be expected? I don't remember the white stuff when I poured out the Fluorite, but it was there when the cloudiness started to disappear.

BTW, I've got an azoo palm filter on it, as well as some dwarf baby tears. And I'm trying to get the tank ready for my betta fish.

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Sorry to hijack this thread, but I don't want to clog up the forum with more noob Qs.

I bought Fluorite on my 5 gallon, and I used a plastic bag to cover it, before I put water in it. There seems to be some white sand in there with it, and the water's still cloudy after 2 days and a water change. Is this to be expected? I don't remember the white stuff when I poured out the Fluorite, but it was there when the cloudiness started to disappear.

BTW, I've got an azoo palm filter on it, as well as some dwarf baby tears. And I'm trying to get the tank ready for my betta fish.

Thanks for all the help.
Yea flourite naturally clouds up when you're filling it with water. Just let it settle and it wont' cloud up again. Just suck up the dust that settles on plants, and it'll be fine.

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OKAY heres a new question. How deep into the subrate do you vaccum? Just the top1/4 or deeper.

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