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post #1 of 45 (permalink) Old 07-16-2012, 05:49 PM Thread Starter
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Do you guys wash your mircale gro before you put it in your tank or do you just dump it in there? This will be a new tank setup with nothing in it.
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Most dont wash it from what I've read. Diana Walstad's book recommends just dumping it in and going from there. But you cant add fish right away due to the ammonia spike from fresh miracle gro. Some people say you should let the soil dry out completely first before adding it, as this lets some of the ammonia... I dont know, evaporate? It makes some of the ammonia dissapear somehow.

I washed mine though. Using the mineralized topsoil method. (I was reading so much nonstop about mts and natural planted tanks and got confused about which was which, and was a month into it before I realized I started with the wrong soil type.) I let it soak for a few days, scooped off the floaties, then let it dry out for a few days. I repeated this three times. Then I screened out the big chunks of wood. Mixed in some clay powder, wetted it with water from a dirty filter and mixed in a bunch of mulm from an established tank. Topped with fluorite black sand.

My results were fantastic. No issues with clouding, or the water being yellow, no ammonia spikes during the first weeks, no fungus on the soil cap, nothing ever floating up from the soil even if I move things and replant. My plants exploded to the point were 2 months ago I had 2 small bunches of hairgrass, 3 swords, and 2 bunchs of water wistera, and today I just had to cut and throw out huge handfulls of plant matter just so my fish have some room to swim.

I think I went overboard, but Im really happy with the results regardless.
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i would STRONGLY reccommend that you do not use MGOPS but instead find the cheapest organic potting soil you can find. Then follow this step by step mineralization proccess:

https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=152027


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i would STRONGLY reccommend that you do not use MGOPS but instead find the cheapest organic potting soil you can find. Then follow this step by step mineralization proccess:

https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=152027
This is two separate topics that you have mixed together.

The use of MGOPS has been done for years and so has mineralizing topsoil. Both have there own benefits.


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Do you guys wash your mircale gro before you put it in your tank or do you just dump it in there? This will be a new tank setup with nothing in it.
nope, just spread it out to pull out the larger woody pieces, then put it in the tank.

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i would STRONGLY reccommend that you do not use MGOPS
Why?


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I just dump it in and cap. Sometimes i'll dump it in a bucket of water first and skim off the floating bits of mulch.
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I did the same as altiuscitius just to see if mineralizing would help with algae and ammonia etc. Just flooded and so far so good.
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This is two separate topics that you have mixed together.

The use of MGOPS has been done for years and so has mineralizing topsoil. Both have there own benefits.
im not too sure what you mean about the mixing of topics.

I will revise my post to the follow:

1. pass on the MGOPS (just my opinion, derived from my own personal experience)

2. go with cheapo top soil and mineralize it.

I think that that may have been a more clear way of explaining my stance.

Sorry for the confusion.


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again - whats wrong with the mgocpm ???
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again - whats wrong with the mgocpm ???
nothing based on the in tank results I've enjoyed.


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Well...I already bought Miracle Gro and dump it in my tank. I capped it with black sand. Will be testing for ammonia for the next few weeks.
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Ive used mgops not the potting mix, actually it was the potatoe and vegatable version , all organic , I just dumped it in and capped with black sand , had a few floaty bits at 1st but nothing major , put my fish and shrimp bk in the next day (it was a substrate change ) and I had no fish or shrimp die since that was months ago , That's my experience
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Doesn't this method provide good bacteria which should help to cut down on the amount of ammonia? From what I have read, you can add the fish one time, is this correct?
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Doesn't this method provide good bacteria which should help to cut down on the amount of ammonia? From what I have read, you can add the fish one time, is this correct?
It provides a great place for the bacteria to grow and live. The bacteria and live plants take care of the ammonia. If the tank is heavily planted you can safely put in the fish same day, though I usually only add a few fish at a time over a several week period so as not to over load the bacteria and plants abilities.


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