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Substrate mix on a budget

OK, I've read enough threads on substrate to make my eyeballs bleed. Most of them end up talking about layering the substrate.

My issue with layering my substrate is more one of clumsyness etc. I tend to move my plants around until I get them to just the "right" location to my liking, and in the process, end up dislodging some of the deeper substrates.

I like the idea of the really cheap kitty litter being high CEC. Instead of doing some sort of capping, I was wondering what people thought of just completely mixing it with some sort of pool filter sand or something similar.

I plan to do a 40 breeder on a severe budget as a challenge to myself. I got the lighting (4xT5HO) used from ebay, and will just steal CO2 from my existing setup byt adding another needle valve, bubble counter. I will be populating it with plant trimmings that I take from my 75 gallon tank, and will house probably 4 angelfish in it that I get from a really good breeder that I have found locally.

Anyway, back to my original point. The options I am thinking about are as follows:
  1. extra cheap kitty litter mixed with pool filter sand of a similar color
  2. just kitty litter alone
  3. kitty litter with MTS (would have to figure a way to mix it so when I distrurb the substrate, I don't get an ugly spot.
Any thoughts?

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You don't really 'need' to cap kitty litter. Just if you don't want the dull grayish color. I would cap with something larger like flourite, or just use straight up kitty litter to save time/money.

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I was going to go with just Pool filter sand, but as I read more about kitty litter and the CEC, I thought it might work better.

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Kitty litter is a no no to me, break down to fast. Worse then safe T sorb
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What about Turface?


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LOW Budget?

$1.17 40# bag of HomeDepot Tops soil.

Get a hold of Colin, he'll sell you just enough clay, Potash and Dolomite to make your MTS:
https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sp...ice-match.html

$4.99 nag of Sakrete All purpose sand. I just removed my B;ack Diamoind Cap and replaced it with Sakrete.
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Heck use Mirical Grow organtic potting soil, shift out the big wood pieces and then cap with Pool filter sand. Works great I have a 55 Gal planted that grows like wild fire with it

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What about Turface?
Where would one find Turface. Looks like it is available in bulk for baseball fields, but I can't seem to find it listed anywhere for retail purchase.

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Kitty litter is a no no to me, break down to fast. Worse then safe T sorb
Does anyone have any experience with Kitty litter breaking down fast, perhaps different brands act differently?

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you can find a 50 pound bag of turface at a john deer tractor supply for about $14 that 50 pounds goes a very long way and the cec and color is amazing, also will not compact and isnt as light as litter or the oil dry stuff


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