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Question MTS capped with eco-complete vs flourite?

I'm creating a mineralized top soil substrate and was wondering what the consensus was as far as using eco-complete or flourite as a border and substrate cap, or if something else would be more suitable. I'm creating a carpet of eleocharis parvula starting with emersed growth. Thanks in advance for any advice!
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I have used MTS capped and edged with Fluorite successfully for a year now. Deep-rooting plants like my tiger lotus have exploded.

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That's good to hear. I'll most likely be going with that option. Thanks for the info, makes my choice easier and better.
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I use them in my 55. Plants love it. However, I can't get my ph above 6.4.
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I also used Fluorite ,used the dark stuff looks great .This mts is amazing no ferts for 1 1/2 month and no signs of deficiency in any rooted plants.Mixed with clay calcum and mag.Just trying to figure out how much fish food to use to keep soil going.The trick to this type of set up is plant as heavy as you can,trust me my first time was a disaster did not use the right plants and not planted heavy.Every plant more then doubled in size in a month.And they gobbled amonnia had for first 3 days then gone..right now have 18 rummynose 20 neons 8 hb 3 sae and 10 amano shrimp 2 yellow shrimp
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That's really healthy growth great looking plants. I'm making a trip to a store here in Tampa on Thursday to pick up some of the Flourite Dark to use for my parvula carpet. I'm using Amaco Mexican Pottery Clay and already have the topsoil prepared. I'm still looking for dolomite but I found muriate of potash at a local nursery. I should be planting by next week! My Malaysian driftwood is almost done soaking as well so I may start attaching Java moss to the wood while I start the emersed growth.
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That's really healthy growth great looking plants. I'm making a trip to a store here in Tampa on Thursday to pick up some of the Flourite Dark to use for my parvula carpet. I'm using Amaco Mexican Pottery Clay and already have the topsoil prepared. I'm still looking for dolomite but I found muriate of potash at a local nursery. I should be planting by next week! My Malaysian driftwood is almost done soaking as well so I may start attaching Java moss to the wood while I start the emersed growth.
If your looking to stock with really nice plants and your moneys worth use GLA .for dolomite i just used (CaSO4) - (MgSO4).i just capped did not outline tank ft and sides
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How ironic that you mentioned GLA. I'm planning on buying my plants from them and they happen to be only a few hours from here in Gainesville I believe, so they should arrive quickly. So glad you pointed that out, I hadn't even noticed they sell it!
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I also used Fluorite ,used the dark stuff looks great .This mts is amazing no ferts for 1 1/2 month and no signs of deficiency in any rooted plants.Mixed with clay calcum and mag.Just trying to figure out how much fish food to use to keep soil going.The trick to this type of set up is plant as heavy as you can,trust me my first time was a disaster did not use the right plants and not planted heavy.Every plant more then doubled in size in a month.And they gobbled amonnia had for first 3 days then gone..right now have 18 rummynose 20 neons 8 hb 3 sae and 10 amano shrimp 2 yellow shrimp
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th mts could you devuldge a bit further with your process? do's and don'ts
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oyeabog I'm starting my first planted tank wir
th mts could you devuldge a bit further with your process? do's and don'ts
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Sorry just seen this.Most important thing is packing with plants,pick plants you will keep and place them so you dont have to move them.Can be a mess but with practice you can do it with no problems.make sure you cap at least 1 inch.If your going to use soil more then 1 inch is not better ,my first time it smelled really bad like sulfur,had 2 inches have 1 inch now.USE a ruler to measure every thing .have allot of floating plants in the beginning like hornwort ,leave the weight on the bunch of plants so it falls to the bottom and does not block to much light grows fast...dont add fish right away maybe 1 after a couple of days .always check the water for the first couple of weeks ph,kh, gh ,ammonia and nitrites most important for me because the fish come first always will...to cycle you can squeeze a sponge from a cycled tank right into the intake of the new filters..my first thing in my tank was amano shrimp and snails...if you have any questions just pm me ....this is my trial and error other peoples may differ...right now to me soil is amazing
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