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Will this work?

I am planning on rescaling my 75gal using the Walstad (or modified version) method. I am going with hartz PH5 cat litter (http://shop.mywebgrocer.com/shop.asp...8-AF62E970711D) with a couple of table spoons of osmocote plus as a base. Then using miracle grow organic gardening soil (http://www.scotts.com/smg/catalog/pr...temId=cat80014), and then using black diamond as a cap. I found a plastic chicken wire mesh at home depot that I want to put between the miracle grow and black diamond to help with the mess if I move a few plants around. First of all, will this work? And second how do you create hills and valleys? Is this method pretty strict as far as depth of each layer, or can you have mounds to create mountains and depth?
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That mesh is going to get tied up with the roots and when you move plants around that could be a problem
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I would skip the kitty litter.
Osmocote and Miracle Grow Soil.
That way there is no problem with substrate getting mixed if you move things around.

The best method of making hills and valleys for me is to make retaining walls out of rock and expanding foam filler. There is a very gooy black one sold for ponds and water falls. The yellowish home improvement type is also fine, if the color is OK. The black one hides better with dark substrate.
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Your making this more complicated than it needs to be. Use a 2" base of miracle grow and put a 1" Black Diamond cap on it and your done.

Messy plant removal is more about you than it is about the dirt. The trick is to turn off all water movement devices, then slowy wiggle the plant out holding it at it's base. Some people only pull 2-3" of root up then snip the roots of at the substrate leaving them in the substrate to decompose.

You still may get a little dirt out but that can be easily syphoned off.

There many ways to do slopes, eventually they all tend to level out. If you do try to slope the substrate keep it moderate.
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Thanks for the responses! Should I try and remove most of the wood chips from the miracle grow or should I just dump it in and go?
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That mesh is going to get tied up with the roots and when you move plants around that could be a problem

+1 the mesh will be more of a headache than the crap you pulled up.
leave out the mesh.

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Your making this more complicated than it needs to be.

Some people only pull 2-3" of root up then snip the roots of at the substrate leaving them in the substrate to decompose.
WHAT he said ^^^^

Dont over think this. Slope from the back to the front. I do have a rule of thumb, set it and forget it. If it starts to die CUT it and leave the roots in the soil.

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REmove the coarsest of the wood chips. This is also REALLY EASY:
If it floats, scoop it out.
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Bingo they said it! 2" of MGOCPS and I would do 1.5-2" of black diamond blasting sand cap. only pull the large wood out of the Mirical grow. Leave the rest and you will be happy!

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Ok, I have miracle grow gardening soil, not potting soil... Is there a difference? I soaked it in water and 80% of it was floating. Will most of it sink eventually?
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