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Eco complete removal ?

I have about 4 inches of Eco complete in my 150 g tank. It was a pretty big investment.

I have alot of plants. I want them to grow alot more. It seems the Eco complete hinders my plants from spreading through our the tank. Is that true?

Would it be worth it to do a big removal of this substrate for s better substrate? Thinking some sand or some new better light colored substrate.
Is anyone else crazy enough to remove their substrate? Or is it just me?
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You can go with a dirted tank, and use the eco-complete or play sand to cap the dirt. I'm using 1" mirelized topsoil capped with 1" of play sand in my rimless 6 gallon Edge tank. I also plan to go the same route with my 55 gallon acrylic tank.

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Interesting, I'd love to know how this goes if you do it. I have a much smaller tank (29g) with Eco-Complete and I, too, really struggle with plants "spreading". I mean, I've had dwarf sag in there for a year which supposedly grows like bananas, but I've never seen a single runner... Not one!
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I grow Dwarf Hair Grass and Utricularia graminifolia with Eco-Complete all the time.

While slower to spread, it'll definitely happen with proper root fertilization.


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With my dirted tanks my plants grow like crazy, and get lots of runners through out each of the tanks.

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I would just add a bag or two of Aquasoil to it and you should see results within the month.

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I have eco complete in my tank... I can basically grow almost anything. You might be missing something in your tank. What is your setup? fert? root tab?


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Not the OP, but I'm seeing little/no growth in several species since changing the substrate in October: E. Belem, E. Vesuvius, lysimachia, hygro sunset. Practically all the vals have died off.

That's in an EI+Fe dosed tank with RM tabs, CO2, and high light. 8.3 dGH tapwater, so no GH Booster used.

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I noticed the same thing. Had dwarf sag and it seemed like it never really did anything. Had a few other plants that never rooted. Not sure if it was for sure the eco, but I switched it out with pfs.
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Hmm -- I just started my new tank (29G) with Eco-Complete. Though I do have an ADA concoction of stuff below it, I'm already seeing small runners form after 3 days.

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I have eco complete in my tank... I can basically grow almost anything. You might be missing something in your tank. What is your setup? fert? root tab?
I have A CO2 canister that is regulated by a bubble counter 2-3 bps ( if that means anything) and ph controller. I dose the tank with the recommended amount of kent marine iron and magnesium. It's a 150 g deep tank and I run 12 t5 HO. Just got my light settings in check and algae growth is a minimum.

I do weekly wcs at about 40%

Is there another feet I could use in addition? I really want my smaller shorter plants to start running through out the bottom. I have dwarf hairgrass and dwarf sag.

All my larger plants have no problem getting tall. I just want my runners to start... Running.
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I have Eco-Complete and I ended up removing the Dwarf Sag as it spread to quick.

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I grow Dwarf Hair Grass and Utricularia graminifolia with Eco-Complete all the time.

While slower to spread, it'll definitely happen with proper root fertilization.
What root fertilization should I look into? I I have iron/ magnesium liquid I dose frequently.

How can I get my runners to run.
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Flourish root tabs seem to be good, and the forum's Root Medic stuff seems popular too. I haven't used osmocote coat... thingies.
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