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Switching Substrate

Just to get an idea where I'm coming from:

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I want to remove the river gravel I have right now, so I can add a carpet to my tank.

I was thinking adding Fluval Plant Stratum, then capping it with the left over Fluval shrimp stratum I have.

Or should I go with Eco Complete or Seachem Flourite Black capped with the Fluval shrimp stratum?

I currently just have cherry shrimp in there, would this be a problem with the water parameters with the shrimp? I have an aqua clear 50 as my filter, with a sponge filter on the intake. I wouldn't have to worry about recycling the tank right?
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I would try and remove the shrimp if you can. You will most likely be burying some when putting in the new substrate. Also your filter should be able to handle the bioload of your shrimp but I have had diatom outbreaks after switching substrates. I would def be checking on a daily basis for a week or so to make sure you dont have any ammonia spikes since that will take out your shrimp in a hurry. If you detect any ammonia or nitrite id get to going on some water changes until it is under control.

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I would remove the shrimp.

but what would be this best combo?
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Is there a reason you are wanting using the shrimp stratum so badly?

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Not really, I have half of a bad left over, so why not use it?
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Well what kind of shrimp do you plan on keeping? Are you using RO water? What kind of water parameters are you wanting in the tank? If your not using RO, what is the water like you will be using?

If your just keeping cherries then it wouldnt matter nearly as much as if you had CRS. Or if your using RO water you could just use eco or flourite with the CRS since you wouldnt need the buffering effect of shrimp soils etc....

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I guess the better question to ask.

I know people say aquasoil is the best, what comes after that?

How would you rate:
Fluval Plant Stratum
Eco Complete
Seachem Flourite
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Best for shrimp? Or best for plants? ADA is not best for shrimp as the ammonia leeching takes quite a long time and if you introduce shrimp too quickly they will all die.

All of the other substrates you listed are mainly geared for plants. Both flourite and Eco complete have no nutrients for plants but have high CEC and good grain size. Flourite is the cheaper option. Fluval plant stratum has nutrients in it so your plants will like that much more.

https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/su...pros-cons.html This is a great read for you!

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I may try the kitty litter thing.

Sorry for being a bug!

So what if I went with miracle gro organic choice potting mix capped with kitty litter. Trying to go cheap!

Could I do all this in one day?

Remove everything from the tank. (Current Gravel, Shrimp, Fish, Plants, etc)
add the miracle gro organic choice potting mix
cap it with kitty litter
Put everything back in. (Shrimp, fish, Plants)

It would that be too much?
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i did the miracle route(minus kitty litter). just soaked the soil for two weeks in a casserole dish prior to the swap, to avoid the amonia spike. same could apply to the eco complete. i reutrned life stock to tank same day.
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So miracle gro organic choice potting mix will cause an amonia spike?
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This sucks, all substrate have their pros and cons. It's hard to pick one.

I think i'm going to go with Seachem Flourite, and use root tabs.
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This sucks, all substrate have their pros and cons. It's hard to pick one.

I think i'm going to go with Seachem Flourite, and use root tabs.
Yeah that's really cost effective way to do things. I have that in both my tanks (minus the root tabs). I find it's easy to plant in flourite as well as the grains are heavy.

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I bought a 15.4 lb bad of Seachem Flourite. Will that be enough for my 10 gallon?
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Yup more than enough for 2inches all around. You'll have some left over as well! For 2" I believe you're using 10lbs per the 10g footprint.

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