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What is the best substrate for cryptocorynes???

I am getting really into crypts these days, and I wanted to ask all of you planted tankers what your thoughts were on the best substrate to grow crypts in. Any info at all would be appreciated. Thanks!

I even have duckweed in my water bong!
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They pretty much grow in anything provided the nutrients... dirt will obviously be the best since they are heavy root feeders.

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You can grow them fine in plain top soil from a garden center for $1.79 a bag.

If you decide to improve that dirt I feel it's important to not get too carried away. I think Red Clay is a helpful additive. I like the idea of dolomite and Crushed Oster Shells/Crushed Coral as they desolve at different rates.

I know the "chicken littles" will scream the sky is falling But, I feel some organic matter is helpful too. That could be worm casings or composted manure, oak leaves. The key here is to not go overboard in % to total.

After that one should consider the Crypt specie when fine tuning the dirt, some like acidic soil other more alkaline. The close you can get to the plants natural habitat the more successful you will be.

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MTS capped with Eco or flourite or floramax. Something along those lines.


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OK, I have a good idea bout the substrate- what do I need to do about lighting? My current light is an 18" 15w T8.

I even have duckweed in my water bong!
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I think that light should be sufficient. Granted, all I have are Wendtii and Spiralis, but it seems that the lower the light, the better.

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I have never tried a dirt tank of any sort- what would be some good choices and methods for that? Should I only fill the tank with 1/2 water, or try true emersed? Sorry I have so many questions.

I even have duckweed in my water bong!
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Also, is there one substrate available that would be a good choice for a wide variety of crypts? I am really interested and want all of the info that I can get. Thanks again.

I even have duckweed in my water bong!
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You can grow them fine in plain top soil from a garden center for $1.79 a bag.

If you decide to improve that dirt I feel it's important to not get too carried away. I think Red Clay is a helpful additive. I like the idea of dolomite and Crushed Oster Shells/Crushed Coral as they desolve at different rates.

I know the "chicken littles" will scream the sky is falling But, I feel some organic matter is helpful too. That could be worm casings or composted manure, oak leaves. The key here is to not go overboard in % to total.

After that one should consider the Crypt specie when fine tuning the dirt, some like acidic soil other more alkaline. The close you can get to the plants natural habitat the more successful you will be.
Oh yea... aren't you the guy who put dog poo in his fish tank!?
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My crypt lucens and wendtii are growing like weeds in both my dirted 10g and 20g. They love dirt. MGOPM is what I use. I can't say much about other crypts, though. If any of them require acidic soil you could just put some peat in the mix.


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Oh yea... aren't you the guy who put dog poo in his fish tank!?
Yes, that would be me.
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Oh yea... aren't you the guy who put dog poo in his fish tank!?
That would be my Tonic Ten tank, see my sig line link. I've also used worm casings(worm poop) and composted Buffalo poop. If you are interested in poop, you might look at this thread too: https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/ge...t-testers.html

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Depends on which ones you want to grow. Some require different conditions.

Some prefer higher ph, others lower.

Sandy soil with low nutrients with steady water flow and others that prefer acidic swamp (leaf litter tanks)

Peat is your friend for most crypts, and I find that plant growerbed/aquasoil/florabase/plant stratum all benefit my crypts.

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I'm glad somebody posted something about crypts. Bought three of them a couple months ago to stick in my son's 20L. Have read that they were rather low tech and easy to keep, so decided to grab a few from the LFS.

Stuck them in regular inert gravel, gave each their own Flourish tab - no CO2 other than what the fish provide and the light is stock 8000K - great results with strong leaves, excellent growth and a few baby leaves poking their way through since then.

I love my other low maintenance moss, fern and swords...but sometimes they can be a hassle - black algae, sporadic growth, ect. But, if these crypts become almost maintenance free except from a tiny bit of pruning in the 20L, I just might consider going all crypt and calling it a day!

The longer I'm involved in this hobby the more & more I'm convinced that Bio-Type species tanks are the way to go. Plants and fish/inverts live together in nature for a reason. I find the less I try to fight nature the better my tanks look.

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... But, if these crypts become almost maintenance free except from a tiny bit of pruning in the 20L, I just might consider going all crypt and calling it a day!
The longer I'm involved in this hobby the more & more I'm convinced that Bio-Type an specie tanks are the way to go. Plants and fish/inverts live together in nature for a reason. I find the less I try to fight nature the better I my tanks look.
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