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ADA, RS Flora Base, Flourite, PFS?

I'm trying to decide what to use for my 160 gallon, and I don't want to buy substrate more than once, as I just can't afford it.

-I think Aquaforest will ship to me so I can get Aquasoil for $41 a bag shipped.
-I can get Red Sea Flora base for $30 a bag in Vancouver next week or $40 at my LFS.
-I have a lot of flourite and Shultz Aquatic Plant soil around I can use lying around. Probably three bags of each. Plus four and four in a running tank I can steal. I have enough flourite black to replace it.
-I have 100LBS of pool filter sand.

I have access to the new fluval substrate but it costs an arm and leg, and I find it hard to plant in as it's very light.

I have moderately hard water, about KH of 8 and GH of 9 or so from the tap. I want to try to lower that a bit, so I am considering ADA or Flora Base. I would like to add some flourite to that to add some weight and the PFS as a foreground. If I get the ADA I will use the flourite black to match and skip the PFS as I don't want to mix the ADA with too much stuff and ruin it if I ever tear the tank down. If I go with the Flora Base (much cheaper) I will mix it with the shultz and flourite and use the PFS.

Does anyone see issues with the Flora Base? It would be much cheaper to use it and I would prefer to go that way. I will mix it because I like the weight of the flourite and I'll save lots of money.

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Just use wormcastings and sand..50/50 mix...then cap with sand...
You can add osmocote plus, peat, clay or anything else with the worm/sand mix...I use this and it works well and im guessing our water is pretty similar if not the same..
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Hmm. I thought about worm casings, but to be honest, you're the first person I've had say they've had good results. A dirt tank could work, but I really want to buffer the ph to around 6.8 or so. The way the ada and flora base does.


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Anyone else have advice?


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I used organic humus mixed with osmocote and really cheap cat litter in my 5 1/2 gallon


It made a huge difference real quick
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Did it effect the ph at all?


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Did it effect the ph at all?
A little bit I'm 7.2 out of the tap and 6.6ish in the tank, this is also a no co2 setup.
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I used redsea flora base in one of my tanks. 7.4 out of tap, 6.5 ph after a year. Still growing roots like there is no tomorrow. I love this substrate.

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Hmm. The flora base is a lot cheaper for me, and I can get some this weekend. I'm leaning towards a flora base/ flourite dark mix. Then I can use PFS for my foreground.

Does it break down considerably after a while?


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