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i saw some black sand that looked like crushed black glass in a container at my lfs labeled, "beautiful black sand" or something like that. i was wondering if this would work with shrimp in a small 3 gallon nano that i am building. some plants im probably gonna use are java moss, java fern, and other lower light plants
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Possibly. If the container says it is safe for freshwater use, probably. If the person working at the store says yes, maybe. Since you are intending to use it in a shrimp only tank, some carbonate hardness in the substrate would not be as much of a problem. You don't need all that much so I don't see a financial burden in trying it and replacing it later if it doesn't work. In a nano tank it will be obvious very quickly if it was a bad choice.

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sounds like it's probably black beauty, which should be ok from what I've read about it (a few places there are folks that talk about all the bad things that COULD happen from using it, but not once have I read of anyone who did use it having problems). I say give it a shot, and let us know how it works out.

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My 75G has if I remember right over 100lbs of black beauty that I got from the local sand and rock place. Like $5 for 50lbs of it! Its a coal slag and is labeled as inert. I have had NO problems with it and it has been up and running for 9 months or so now.

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Phillip, thanks for the review on the Black Beauty. If this stuff at the LFS is indeed Black Beauty (coal slag), then it is inert (although often laden with ferrous particles, which shouldn't help nor hurt). It is a bit sharp, though, since it is designed for use as a sandblasting media. I've heard of some problems with Corys or other bottom feeders with barbels.

This might not necessarily be Coal Slag, though. I've purchased black sand from my LFS that was simply black silica, which is indeed crushed black glass.

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I doubt the LFS has black beauty. Prolly the tahitian moon sand or something like that. I thought about it being sharp as well (after I got it of course ), but I have 4 cory's, a rainbow shark, 2 Clown Pleco's, and Clown Loach that sift in it all the time and their barbs look fine still. Thank goodness!
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for those looking for dark or black substrate for a planted tank, these links are to a few options that have been posted in the past on this and other forums... i'm hoping to do a nano with the exo terra sand soon(exo terra riverbed sand is not really black, but a dark muddy brown, like you'd find at the bottom of a SA river. really attractive, but I wish it came packaged in larger bags. grain size i similar to finer grain play sand)

estes black sand, I'm assuming black quartz:
http://www.petluvers.com/estesultrar...sandblack.html

3m colorquartz aggregate:
http://www.hovertrowel.com/aggregates.html

Exo Terra Riverbed Sand/Amber:
http://www.thatpetplace.com/Products.../Itemdy00.aspx

Anyone that's had a negative experience with any of these products, please let me know, as I'm planning to try them all one day at some point to learn which, if any, would be "best suited" for a planted tank.

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oh yes, i remember now. it was black beauty 40cents a pound. so i guess it wouldnt harm to try it out.
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oh yea, i forgot to mention. this is an acrylic tank so should i take some extra measures so this doesnt scratch the tank?
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yes... especially when removing algae from the sides! if you have a magnetic scrubber, you really shouldn't use it anywhere near the substrate, because the iron will stick to the magnet like... iron to a magnet you'll end up with a pretty hazy tank in no time if a grain or two gets under your algae scrubber and digs into the acrylic as you wipe.

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…just a plug for Tahitian moon sand.

I use it in a shrimp tank (with neon tetras) and everything is find. The shrimp and neons look great against the black.

I tested it in a cory tank. I set up an area a just used the sand and a little gravel just a 1/2 inch deep. The cories love to dig. Their barbs are doing fine.
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…just a plug for Tahitian moon sand.

I use it in a shrimp tank (with neon tetras) and everything is find. The shrimp and neons look great against the black.

I tested it in a cory tank. I set up an area a just used the sand and a little gravel just a 1/2 inch deep. The cories love to dig. Their barbs are doing fine.
Yup it's great stuff, I have it in 4 tanks ranging from 2 to 75 gallons.

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Tahitian black moon sand is just basically black sand if i remember correctly, so it should be great for Corydoras, i wouldnt consider it at all "sharp", usually Corydoras dont have a problem unless the substrate is something like crushed coral, crushed sea shells, crushed glass, etc. Also some species of Corydoras actually prefer a dark substrate, so dark and sand? How can you go wrong?
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I have that crap in my cichlid/rainbow tank and I don't like it at all. It gets sucked up in the hose when I am trying to cycle the tank and it wants to compact, which can cause anaerobic areas. Fish waste just sits on top of it, which is both good and bad. It is easy to suck up, but it also is more polluting to the water column. If I ever take that tank down, that crap is going in the garbage.
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I really love TMS, but I haven't seen it since a month after setup. All I see now is glosso. Planting in it is very easy, and it does take some extra cleaning to keep it attractive.

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