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Substrate and starphire glass tank!!!

I have a 225 gallon 4 side starphire glass tank. I am ready to add substrate to my tank and I want to know if there are any material that is available so that I can have the substrate rest on it instead of the glass directly. Since it is low iron glass, it easily scratches even if I pick a sand particle. What are my options? Do people use any thing to protect their low iron glass getting scratches from substrate? Suggestions please!
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what are you worrying about scratching the sides or the bottom? I wouldnt worry about the bottom as you will never see it, but the sides I think you would just need to be careful or whatever you put between the substrate and glass will be visible.
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Also not all substrates are hard or sharp enough to scratch. For instance you could use mineralized top soil or aquasoil, these won't scratch anything.

And yeah, I wouldn't worry about scratching the bottom very much :p
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I am not worried about the bottom glass. It is the sides that I am worried about.
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what are you worrying about scratching the sides or the bottom? I wouldnt worry about the bottom as you will never see it, but the sides I think you would just need to be careful or whatever you put between the substrate and glass will be visible.
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substrate that I will be using is coarse and I am 100% sure that it would leave scratches. I am trying to find a way to minimize it
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Also not all substrates are hard or sharp enough to scratch. For instance you could use mineralized top soil or aquasoil, these won't scratch anything.
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substrate that I will be using is coarse and I am 100% sure that it would leave scratches. I am trying to find a way to minimize it
You could always just carefully put it in then, & not muck about near the sides so it never moves/scratches.
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FWIW I've seen lots of Starphire reefs with coarse substrate & this issue never came up that I can remember. I understand it's hard not to worry with that kind of investment though...
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reefers use starboard plastic (the same material as a cutting board) for this purpose or to simulate white sand with a bare bottom tank. I'd just skip it and go with aquasoil personally, and not use a magfloat. IME, that's the only thing that can scratch a tank.
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Buy 2-3 bags of AS and line the edges only. Fill the rest with your choice of substrate. It's how MTS users give the appearance of a solid substrate when the core is actually filled with mud.
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Thanks to everyone that responded. I am going try pond liner as suggested.
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