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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-21-2020, 07:30 PM Thread Starter
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Organic potting mix for new tank advice

I bought this organic one, i spent 1 hour at home depot looking for the right one. Researched a lot while in there using my phone and i got to this.

Im planning to make a "farm aquarium" woth plants only, starting with minihairgrass to then add some of the plants to my main tank. However idk how to prepare it

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I would be concerned that it says "with water conserve". Usually that's something you don't want in a dirted tanks dirt.
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I would be concerned that it says "with water conserve". Usually that's something you don't want in a dirted tanks dirt.
That was my first reaction too, but it looks like this isn't a chemical wetting agent, it's just coir and yucca. They are probably fine. I don't see a problem with this mix. The perlite might be annoying, but not a reason to throw the bag out.

I don't mineralize my soil so do any major prep, so I'd just sift out any big particles and put it in the tank.
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Ok, i removed all big particules and started, look at the pictures.

I didnt want to mess with a bigger tank so i added the cleaned substrate and added conditioned water, then i added the seeds...

This is my small experiments area, where i do things before doing it in big scale.



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I am not sure I understand what exactly you mean when you say "farm aquarium". I was understanding this to be a propagation tank for submersed plants, but it looks like you have it set up more like a terrarium and are starting seeds. Can you elaborate?

I'm a little concerned you have a lot of water for seed starting - typically you want the soil moist and not completely waterlogged. Frequently this amount of moisture is described as "like a wrung out sponge", if that helps.

I have not started hairgrass from seed, but I know Prairie Moon nursery sells multiple Eleocharis species and they are very reputable. They are a native plant nursery, not aquatic plant specialists per se, but their info has not steered me wrong in the past. Their hairgrass germination instructions specify two conditions. One is that the seeds need to be exposed to light, which I can see you've taken care of. The other is a 30 day cold stratification treatment. Now, some seeds will still germinate without the recommended cold treatment (particularly a short one like 30 days), but they might take a very long time to germinate and may do so at a much lower rate. Other times the seeds won't budge. If you don't have good luck with this bunch, that's something to look at. Also, there are some disreputable hairgrass seed sellers on Amazon that are selling mislabeled seed. You may have the right stuff, but that is something else to look out for.
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I have used that exact soil in my tanks. Make sure you cap it with sand or gravel as the vermiculite will float to the surface as do the wood bits. I have also used this in a terrarium grow tank for emersed plants. I have a 55g that needs to be reworked and I will add this when I do.
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I am not sure I understand what exactly you mean when you say "farm aquarium". I was understanding this to be a propagation tank for submersed plants, but it looks like you have it set up more like a terrarium and are starting seeds. Can you elaborate?



I'm a little concerned you have a lot of water for seed starting - typically you want the soil moist and not completely waterlogged. Frequently this amount of moisture is described as "like a wrung out sponge", if that helps.



I have not started hairgrass from seed, but I know Prairie Moon nursery sells multiple Eleocharis species and they are very reputable. They are a native plant nursery, not aquatic plant specialists per se, but their info has not steered me wrong in the past. Their hairgrass germination instructions specify two conditions. One is that the seeds need to be exposed to light, which I can see you've taken care of. The other is a 30 day cold stratification treatment. Now, some seeds will still germinate without the recommended cold treatment (particularly a short one like 30 days), but they might take a very long time to germinate and may do so at a much lower rate. Other times the seeds won't budge. If you don't have good luck with this bunch, that's something to look at. Also, there are some disreputable hairgrass seed sellers on Amazon that are selling mislabeled seed. You may have the right stuff, but that is something else to look out for.
Nice, thanks for the reference

As i said before (I didnt want to mess with a bigger tank so i added the cleaned substrate and added conditioned water, then i added the seeds...This is my small experiments area, where i do things before doing it in big scale) this is an experiemnts zone, small scale projects im still working and observing. My plan is to set 20g long propagation tank if possible. I want to propagate anacharis and ludwigias because i like the look of them and i have a idea on how to add them in a future tank.

So, your observations are awesome for what you looking above in the picture, this area is suppose to receive critics and give answers hahahaha.

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I used the same stuff, as others pointed out you absolutely need a cap on it and as well pick out or use a mesh screen to get rid of the wood bits and foreign matter. I found some bits of plastic and netting in mine. Here is a article on mineralization of soil. I found it interesting and wonder if it is something we should be doing when using a common garden soil substrate.

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I used the same stuff, as others pointed out you absolutely need a cap on it and as well pick out or use a mesh screen to get rid of the wood bits and foreign matter. I found some bits of plastic and netting in mine. Here is a article on mineralization of soil. I found it interesting and wonder if it is something we should be doing when using a common garden soil substrate.



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Looks like something is working out

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Something I will do different next time is line the edges of the aquarium with my top capping of choosing for about a inch in, then fill the inside with the potting soil. that way you don't see the potting soil layer along the edges from the outside and more likely to keep it from migrating out near the edges.

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Looks like something is working out
Where do you get the seeds from and what plants did you seed?
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