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ADA Aquasoil dusty - cleaning it

Hi guys, new here.

I have such insane amounts of dust in and on top of the substrate, that my water won't clear up. Any tiny disturbance, even a fish swimming by, will cause a dust storm. To prevent this from happening I'm either planning to put pool filter sand on top, or use a gravel vacuum and suck all of the dust out.

Since the sand will probably end up underneath the substrate, I prefer to use the vacuum cleaner. However, I'm not sure if it'll get the dust out and/or if it's suitable to use with ADA. It seems lighter than regular gravel, so it might get sucked through the hose.

Does anyone have experience with either vacuuming it or topping it off? Would this solve the dust issue?

Note: the dust isn't waste, it's actual dust from the substrate. Tank has been running for 2 months after a move and has been cloudy ever since.
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That really shouldn't happen with AS. I mean I've used it in countless setups and never get dust and my water is always crystal from the start. Where the granules intact or were they broken up before you started the tank. Did you disturb it when filling the tank.

If you want to keep it all AS, you could put another layer on top of it. You can do this gradually without emptying the tank.


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I often vacuum using a 1Ē gravel washer to remove sediment from Amazonia. I control the suction rate of the siphon bi pinching the siphon tube. I do this regularly with my ADA AS tanks and donít run into sediment challenges. Take it slow and steady.

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That really shouldn't happen with AS. I mean I've used it in countless setups and never get dust and my water is always crystal from the start. Where the granules intact or were they broken up before you started the tank. Did you disturb it when filling the tank.

If you want to keep it all AS, you could put another layer on top of it. You can do this gradually without emptying the tank.
I bought the substrate about 6 months ago. Although I never had problems with the water being cloudy before, there was always a thin layer of dust in and on the substrate.

Since I moved 2 months ago, it seems to be a lot worse. The granules seem intact. I covered the foreground with plastic bags and then slowly filled the tank. Even the water slowly touching the substrate caused the tank to become instantly cloudy. I guess I could've broken a bunch of granules redecorating the tank?

Also, the reason I'm considering topping it off with the sand is because I have a huge bag sitting here, and soil isn't cheap
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Took a picture of the fog. Has been this way for 2 months now. I've started doing 2 50% waterchanges this week, but it's not doing anything. Got a bunch of filterfloss in the filter as well that I'm changing weekly. It's usually dirty as hell, but again doesn't remove the fog.

Because I've been disturbing the filter so much and waterchanges aren't doing anything, could it perhaps be bacterial bloom? After the move I didn't have a chance to cycle the tank first, so I dumped all the fish in from the start.
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Took a picture of the fog. Has been this way for 2 months now. I've started doing 2 50% waterchanges this week, but it's not doing anything. Got a bunch of filterfloss in the filter as well that I'm changing weekly. It's usually dirty as hell, but again doesn't remove the fog.

Because I've been disturbing the filter so much and waterchanges aren't doing anything, could it perhaps be bacterial bloom? After the move I didn't have a chance to cycle the tank first, so I dumped all the fish in from the start.
Even before I read the second paragraph, I was going to say that looks like bacterial bloom or possibly even algae. Take a sample and put it in a container with a white bottom or hold it over a piece of white paper and observe what color the water is. If it's slightly brown then its substrate cloudiness, if its slightly green it is algae, if it doesn't have any color then it is a bacterial bloom.
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Even before I read the second paragraph, I was going to say that looks like bacterial bloom or possibly even algae. Take a sample and put it in a container with a white bottom or hold it over a piece of white paper and observe what color the water is. If it's slightly brown then its substrate cloudiness, if its slightly green it is algae, if it doesn't have any color then it is a bacterial bloom.
I have a similar problem with my 20 gallon tank when I do a water change, and it gets worse the larger the water change is. It makes me wonder what I'm drinking.

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ADA Aquasoil dusty - cleaning it

I had a rogue bacterial bloom before. It was suggested I use SeaChem Stability. I used it as per setting up a new tank, and it cleared it up. Unfortunately my old thread, with pictures, used Photobucket and I no longer can see the pictorial progression in the thread.

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Alright, I put some aquarium water in a drinking glass next to one filled with tapwater. Color is the same, so I guess it's bacterial bloom.

I'll check with my LFS if they sell Stability tomorrow
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Stability came in the mail yesterday and it works like a charm.

The water was extremely cloudy since monday. This morning however, the fog has dissapeared for like 80%. I'm gonna keep dosing for the next couple of days until it's gone
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I am so glad that you were able to get it sorted out. It looks like youíll get your tank back.

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