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Substrate for a nano shrimp tank

I'm new here and bought a used Dennelle 5gallon tank. I don't like the filter so I believe I have an external one picked out. But will use the light it comes with. I want a shrimp tank only, maybe a snail. Keeping it simple for a first time fresh water tank owner. I have done many salt water tanks so basics are there. What is recommended for substrate for shrimp? Need to figure out how to load photos on here as well.
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Welcome to the forums. I use Imgur for photos. To your main question, that will depend on the type of shrimp you hope to get. Have you looked into varieties and do any in particular catch your eye? The two big ones* are Caridina/often called crystals or bees (softwater) and Neocaridina/ often called cherries (most any water). Both breed like cockroaches when conditions are right, Caridina in my experience are far more sensitive and difficult. Both have reds, blues, blacks, and more available, Caridina are the only ones with substantial white pigment. For a first shrimp to get familiar with keeping them, I would recommend Neos hands down. With either, they feed upon algae and biofilm largely. You barely even need to feed these creatures until the population grows out of hand. But because of their preferred diet, they do not have a good track record in newly set up tanks. I like to let tanks go for 2 months or so ideally before adding either kind of shrimp.

*Of course, there are also ghost, Amano and many other shrimp out there that typically aren't bred in the home aquarium, as well as some oddballs

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Thank you for the response. I really fell in love with the blue ones. Sorry that is all I know. Still learning about all the different shrimp out there. I did find the articles on here about the cherries and crystals. It would be nice to have 3 blue ones and 3 all red ones. I do have 5 white clouds in a frog tank that I might add but not all of them. Not sure how many I can add to such a small tank. For a fish tank I'm use to 180 gallon reef. I have no problems waiting on adding the shrimp as I know this is going to take a bit to learn first. I read a post on filter here and didn't like the fact that the one that came with the set up is inside the tank. Just takes up to much space. So I have it saved from Amazon as to what was recommended.
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It sounds like Neocaridina shrimp (Cherries) will be the best place for you to start. Since that's likely the case, you'd want to stick with a single color because they will breed and become muddled.

You could start with 5-10 shrimp once your tank is cycled and mature enough for them. Could probably add more but they'll breed and you'll have a large population in no time regardless.

For substrate? Go with something inert like pool filter sand, Quikrete Medium Grade All Purpose sand, Caribsea Peace River, lava rock, whatever you prefer. Darker substrates will allow shrimp to appear more colorful.

Go fish-free in this tank. If it can fit in their mouth? It'll be a snack. Especially in a small tank and until you've got the hang of everything.

Do you know what your water parameters are?

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I will have to get a test kit when I get that far. But I do remember testing when I had the salt water. Temp will be house temp normally around 74.Can't let it go to much higher with frogs. Is there any way not to have them breed. I don't need another breeding project and just want the look of the red and blue in the tank.
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You cannot get them to not breed. They are very difficult to sex.

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74 is about as high as I would let it go with shrimp. Since you intentionally keep the tank cool, that'll be great for them.

There's not a way to stop Neocaridina from breeding. You could intentionally keep the same sex of both to stop breeding. But then your colonies will die out.

It's not tough to tell male and female shrimp apart - especially Neos. But there aren't many who'd sell you all males or all females at a price that would make it worthwhile.

My suggestion is to keep one color. Get really good at shrimping. And in the future, start up another tank of the other color you want. Or keep both Neos and Tigers in the same tank so you can have different colors. But don't try that until you consider you have a lot more experience.

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I will have to get a test kit when I get that far. But I do remember testing when I had the salt water. Temp will be house temp normally around 74.Can't let it go to much higher with frogs. Is there any way not to have them breed. I don't need another breeding project and just want the look of the red and blue in the tank.


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