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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 04-03-2019, 05:46 PM Thread Starter
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New here, but I have been a lurker for a little while now and this is a fantastic site. That said, ive done my best to sift through past threads here and while i didnt want to hijack anyones thread I didnt exactly find what i found. Im in the middle of setting up a new build in the very near future and i decided im going to go with black blasting sand as the substrate. Ive done a good bit of research and am working within a budget so i was thrilled to find that option. recently had a conversation with a great LFS owner and he told me they used blasting sand in some salt water setups and occasionally had issues with bottom dwellers and glass. So that got me curios and i opened on of the packages to see what i was working with and found some odd pieces that i wanted to show here and gather some opinions on. going to do my best to get this pic up for you kind folks and i already appreciate everytimes time for reading this post. thank you in advance!
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I've done blasting sand in my tanks and have seen what is in the pic also but never had problems with it. My cory cat fish were just fine.
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You'll get the odd peice of that stuff here and there but its no big deal.

Cories are perfectly fine with blasting sand. Ive used in many different tanks over the years with dozens and dozens of Cories
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I appreciate the replies and burr740 thank you for the pics, those are some awesome looking cories. I know this stuff gets done to death but thanks again for taking the time to reply!
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thank you for this thread and response.
I also got some blasting sand and noticed alot of those broken wire pieces and was getting a little worried if I should use or thrash the blasting sand. Those wire strands are not magnetic so... . lol

now I have confidence that my blasting sand with those alien pieces are just fine.
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I second what Burr posted. I have been using it over a year with a school of Cory's and they all look just like that (no pics right now, sorry).

It is a great option for a substrate. Enjoy using it!



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It appears to me that BBS is variable- as can be seen with some having items ( wire?) in bags that others do not. Due to this variability, saying it is aquarium safe in all instances appears problematic, no?



Ah, okay- wire in BBS is not an anomoly:

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Too Dusty, full of lumps

We've been using the Wicked Sister 20-40 (Medium) grit in our blast room for some time now, with lots of issues, the biggest of which is dust.

This stuff has to be screened before use, as it often contains chunks and bits of wire that will plug up the nozzles. No big deal for here, we already have screens and a reclaimer system. Could be problematic for a place that doesn't blast all the time.

Secondly, this is not meant for use in a blast room. It breaks down so fast you end up with tons of dust, plugging up your dust collector and making it impossible to see what you are doing. Its meant for outdoor blasting and one-time use.

Though it is quick to remove heavy rust and stuck-on debris from the parts being blasted, the poor visibility and high maintenance of our equipment that come with using it have our shop looking for Aluminum Oxide based abrasive instead- which is said to break down much more slowly than coal slag and will perform better in a blast room.



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"Bought this to use in my 110lb pressure blaster. Plugged up right away. After cleaning hoses out I noticed mixed with the grain are long strings of glass that look like sharp wire. This wire looking material is what's plugging my blaster up. Gonna take back the bags I didn't use and try the fine."

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I know... I know- you'll wish I would just join the consensus and extol the virtues of BBS. I understand.

I respect the experience of those that recommend this product as safe (I learn much from these same individuals everyday). Just because I disagree with the assessment doesn't mean I dont respect all that state that BDBS is safe on all counts. But, I have dealt with this issue on the other side many times. Illness threads- corydoras and soft-bellied catfish with Red Blotch disease, aeronomas infections, unexplained "holes" that are often blamed on parasitic worms.

This substrate for 75% of aquarists is entirely safe -if dont have bottom-dwelling fish. Some never experience a problem- but, many do.

180 g. low tech w/ wild South American cichlids, corydoras eques, and African Congo riverine tetras.
60 g. low tech w/ F1 Alenquer pair /Stendker "Tefe" discus and wild Altum Angels
30 g. low tech w/ Wild Tucano tetras
30 g. low-tech African Biotope
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I know... I know- you'll wish I would just join the consensus and extol the virtues of BBS. I understand.

I respect the experience of those that recommend this product as safe (I learn much from these same individuals everyday). Just because I disagree with the assessment doesn't mean I dont respect all that state that BDBS is safe on all counts. But, I have dealt with this issue on the other side many times. Illness threads- corydoras and soft-bellied catfish with Red Blotch disease, aeronomas infections, unexplained "holes" that are often blamed on parasitic worms.

This substrate for 75% of aquarists is entirely safe -if dont have bottom-dwelling fish. Some never experience a problem- but, many do.

thanks for that!
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I have two tanks and went with the BDBS in the 10g. Looked great. Very much liked the black and shimmery look it had. Made everything pop as far as looks go. Really liked it to start off with.

After a while noticed that my nerites would try to avoid it to a degree. At first thought it was my imagination but noticed in my bigger tank with sackrete commercial medium sand they would burrow and cut across the bottom edge of the tank cleaning the glass under the sand layer. Sometimes spending what seemed like days half berried in the substrate eating stuff. I just ended up changing my 10g over to the same sackrete sand. Dont regret it besides that I kind of wanted the black substrate. Just to cheap to go buy more sand when I still had left overs from the $10 100lb bag I got to do my 40B.

Anyone near Everett WA that would like a couple unopened bags of BDBS by chance
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Yikes! I was going to add a couple of nirites to my 13 gallon w/bdbs after we break it in cycling to control brown algae and watnots. I heard they don't like sand either but was hoping they'd crawl on bdbs. lol

I hope the nirites I get aren't so picky of the substrate

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So i'm 2 months in and I love it. so far my stem plants seem to be doing well (with root tabs) and I haven't seen any issue at all with my yoyo loaches, bolivian ram (who loves to sift through the substrate), clown pleco or even my nerite snail. Sad to hear that some of you have had issues. can only keep my fingers crossed that I don't run into problems in the future...
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I did BDBS in my 3 tanks and have coriea and nerites in all 3. No issues thus far and snails don't seem to avoid it, though if a snail falls over they do have trouble getting back up since there's only sand to grab into.
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So i'm 2 months in and I love it. so far my stem plants seem to be doing well (with root tabs) and I haven't seen any issue at all with my yoyo loaches, bolivian ram (who loves to sift through the substrate), clown pleco or even my nerite snail. Sad to hear that some of you have had issues. can only keep my fingers crossed that I don't run into problems in the future...
Ill keep my fingers crossed for you as well.

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I did BDBS in my 3 tanks and have coriea and nerites in all 3. No issues thus far and snails don't seem to avoid it, though if a snail falls over they do have trouble getting back up since there's only sand to grab into.
What is a coriea?
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Sorry typo, cories*
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