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Any experience with either of these planted/shrimp

Starting up a 24g jbj planted shrimp tank. Looking at substrate I know a lot of people swear by ADA and Fluval but I was looking to see if any one else has tried some thing else with good success. Foster n smith having a sale on Brightwell Aquatics FlorinVolcanit Plant Substrate but also saw UPaqua substrate that some one tried and had good results.

Also the tank is going to be a iwagumi aquascape style growing either Monte Carlo/Eleocharis parvula/or Lilaeopsis brasiliensis and some AR mini to cut up the green here and there.

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ADA Amazonia= great for plants and Neocaridina shrimp (maybe some CRS and Tiger shrimp if you use remineralized RO/DI water)

Fluval Stratum= no real nutrition for plants, weakest of the buffering substrates that is supposedly geared towards Caridina shrimp.

Brightwell/Controsoil= no real nutrition for plants but an excellent buffering substrate for Caridina shrimp when used with remineralized RO/DI water.
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ADA Amazonia= great for plants and Neocaridina shrimp (maybe some CRS and Tiger shrimp if you use remineralized RO/DI water)

Fluval Stratum= no real nutrition for plants, weakest of the buffering substrates that is supposedly geared towards Caridina shrimp.

Brightwell/Controsoil= no real nutrition for plants but an excellent buffering substrate for Caridina shrimp when used with remineralized RO/DI water.

Thanks for the reply..I did forget to mention that Iím gonna have neocaridina shrimp (blue velvet). Have co2 and dose with liquid ferts..wonít be using rodi water..

Thanks for the input..didnít know fluval was subpar when it came to substrate when so many people use it
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Thanks for the reply..I did forget to mention that I’m gonna have neocaridina shrimp (blue velvet). Have co2 and dose with liquid ferts..won’t be using rodi water..

Thanks for the input..didn’t know fluval was subpar when it came to substrate when so many people use it
Yeah, the Fluval works like the other buffering substrates... at first. However, it loses it's buffering ability much faster than any of the others (6-8 months). Once this starts to happen, it becomes unsuitable for Caridina breeding. The shrimps won't die off right away but they won't exactly thrive either.

For keeping Neocaridinas, the fluval stuff could work, especially using tap water. The buffering won't last long with anything over a KH of 3. It'll just end up being an overpriced inert substrate at the end of the day. You'd be better off just using pool filter sand or BDBS for all that. If you want nutrition from your substrate for rooted plants and be able to use tap water, go with ADA. If you don't mind dosing those liquid ferts from the beginning, any inert substrate would be fine... minus anything with fine particles that become packed and anaerobic (fine sand).
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Yeah, the Fluval works like the other buffering substrates... at first. However, it loses it's buffering ability much faster than any of the others (6-8 months). Once this starts to happen, it becomes unsuitable for Caridina breeding. The shrimps won't die off right away but they won't exactly thrive either.

For keeping Neocaridinas, the fluval stuff could work, especially using tap water. The buffering won't last long with anything over a KH of 3. It'll just end up being an overpriced inert substrate at the end of the day. You'd be better off just using pool filter sand or BDBS for all that. If you want nutrition from your substrate for rooted plants and be able to use tap water, go with ADA. If you don't mind dosing those liquid ferts from the beginning, any inert substrate would be fine... minus anything with fine particles that become packed and anaerobic (fine sand).

Alright I appreciate the help! Ya Iím not keeping any thing crazy like crystals or stuff like that just nice and simple. I thought you needed one of those types of substrates for keeping shrimp..I mean I get it that it helps but not totally necessary! Well I should have mentioned I donít mind putting root tabs in. I just figured having a substrate to help with feeding nutrients to the plants itís just doing double duty! Ya I donít want to use sand..used it before it worked but didnít really care for it just wanted to try some thing different! Now itís more of do I wanna pay the hefty price of ads or go some thing a little cheaper that will work all in all.
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in the end I went with brightwell. got a 15lb bag for $25 (reg price $50) as dr. foster and smith is having a big sale. so hopefully one bag is enough for my 24jbj
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