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i was wondering if i can use sand from the hardware store that is sold for driveways, for the ice? i can get 50 lb for a little more that $5.

i looked at the bag and it doesn't say anywhere what it is made of but it does say that it contains no salt. maybe i could get some and test it in some water for a while?

what do you think?
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It depends, how big is the grain size? If it's smaller or larger than 2mm-3mm then I wouldn't use it. Is it coated in anything, usually winter driveway sand has a moister retaining chemical coating which would be bad for a tank.

The best cheap sand that I've ever used is Pool Filter Sand (PFS) sold in pool and spa stores (nearly every town has one) and retails for about the same price if not a bit less for 50lb bags.

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i am not sure if it is coated with anything. it is pretty much just a bag of sand, very basic. i am not sure the size of it. i will have to get some to see. maybe i can call the company and see if it is coated.

i don't have access to a pool and spa store. i am pretty sure the closest one (if there is even one there) is over 600 km away. shipping would not be cheap! haha!

i am really just looking for something that is available close to me so i don't have to wait too long. haha! just me being impatient. i can order 31 lb of flourite for ~ $70 with shipping to my remote town.
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Are there any landscaping companies around? You might check there for sand, too. Should be super cheap there.





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"it is pretty much just a bag of sand, very basic"

No it's rarely ever just basic Anything sold to consumers is ether going to be in extreamly high consintrations for a tank or is coated in something harmful to fish. The rule of thumb is if the bag doesn't say it has nothing in it but sand then it does have soemthing else in it. I am more than willing to beat the salt mixed in is not sea or aquatic salt so it's going to have other menearls mixed in. While that's fine for humans it's not so much for fish.

It's worth the extra time to look around for a pool & spa store or a landscaping company. I've never seen a small town without one of those places at least in US/UK/Germany areas.


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thanks for the suggestions about the landscaping company too. but, i highly doubt there is anything like that around here either. i live in a town of 1200, and they are mostly seniors (meaning retired). we are 250 km from the closest "big" town of 20,000. not much choice here... :S haha!

if it comes down to it i will order the flourite. i am just looking for something closer. i could probably even get some sort of sand from the pet store in the closest town. like i said, i was just looking for something closer.
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Is there a Home Depot or Lowe's nearby, or even a large Wal-mart? I get my pool filter sand from Home Depot, 50# for about $5. Play sand [a la Quikrete] has what seems to be clay or some other crud in it, and even the PFS has to be washed very well [rinsing batches in a large bucket several times each yields the best results in my experience]. It is relatively easy to plant into and my loaches love it. I use a ~1-2" layer over Flourite in my planted tanks.
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thanks for the suggestion.

the closest home depot is over 600 km away the closest walmart is 250 km away. i don't think that walmart there carries pool filter sand. we don't have a lot of pools in newfoundland.

i am going into town (the 250 km away town) next weekend so i will check at the pet store there to see what they have. i think i remember them selling some sort of sand type product there. if not i will check kents (which is sort of like home depot but not as big) and see what they might have. if none of that works out then i will just order the flourite from petsandponds.com
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here is the info on the sand from the hardware store here...

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Traction Sand

Product Specifications
This is a natural, high quality sub-angular sand free from salt and harmful chemicals. It provides traction on packed snow or ice surfaces such as sidewalks, walkways and parking lots, and adds weight in vehicles for better driving control.
Shaw Traction Sand is washed, screened and dried to optimum size. It will not deteriorate concrete, peel paint or harm carpets and floors. It will not rust metal, or add contaminants to soil.
The dried sand flows freely. The package is flexible and shapes to the contours of secure spots in automobiles. The packaging provides friction to resist sliding.
Shaw Traction Sand is available at building supply, hardware and grocery stores, and garages.
it doesn't seem to have anything added to it chemically. i may just buy some and put water with it and then test the water after a week or so (same test someone mentioned for kitty litter).
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Yep its probably OK but like you said test it of pH swings and ammonia.

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if it turns out no good then i will just use it for my driveway
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