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Buying Rocks/Stones in Japan

Hi awesome people,

I'm traveling to Japan next month. I was wondering if anyone knows if there will be any issues buying rocks there (eg. Seiryu/Ryuoh Rocks), and traveling back with them in my check-in luggage.

I live in Australia by the way.

Thanks heaps in advance.
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You may be in for an issue. Not sure though.



I had a friend who was shipping a couple of trucks over there and they had to be CLEAN! I mean NO dirt, no organic matter whatsoever. They were stopped at customs and almost denied entry because someone found some dirt up behind one of the shocks!


I don't know how they are about rocks, but it became incredibly obvious that they don't like soil from other countries. I would check before doing it. I mean, more so than asking on an online fish tank forum (no disrespect), but this is something uncommon, but could be serious. Good luck!
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From the friends I have that go there, and a brother of mine spending the last 4 months there I can say you will have a hard time leaving with anything organic as it's against the law. I have only been able to get dry goods.

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Taking organic things is usually denied by customs (being in the U.S. the general policy is unless it's something refined you probably will be stopped by customs) things like live plants, natural stones (unless refined or in very small size/quantities), animals, soil, etc. Will not be allowed through customs. Honestly I would contact your airport to see what their policies are on customs for Australia and see if it would be an issue on your side or Japan's side for you to do something like that rather than asking the fish forum. I can say from my own experiences traveling out of country and back to the U.S. I've never tried something like that because it would be a hassle to get through customs. I deal with refined stones for my business for the reason that if I have to order something from outside the U.S. refined pieces are much easier to pass through customs.

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And rocks are considered to be organic?

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Hi awesome people,

I'm traveling to Japan next month. I was wondering if anyone knows if there will be any issues buying rocks there (eg. Seiryu/Ryuoh Rocks), and traveling back with them in my check-in luggage.

I live in Australia by the way.

Thanks heaps in advance.
Hi auscape
I will be bringing a few rocks to Melbourne from overseas (eastern Europe) second week of June. I have collected some in the old quarry near my parents holiday house, so these rocks cost me nothing. I will let you know how it goes.
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A quick look at the definition of "organic" can get confusing!! There seems a wide range of thinking on what the term means. To me, it means "carbon bearing" so pretty much anything that has ever been living would be organic. Does that mean a sedimentary rock composed of formerly living creatures like limestone would be organic? That is likely to depend on which guy you find at customs on that special day!
My personal view would be that it is likely to be a fun project but also may be more trouble than worth it. Rocks are prone to having dirt in/on them and the thought of lugging a box of rocks around , only to have them lost on inspection, makes me want to take a hike in my own country. There is certainly no shortage of rocks in OZ, so I see little value in pressing the issue to get much the same rock from Japan.
I have more fun on the hike than I get in lugging a box of rocks around!
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I believe rocks are considered "organic" in this context anyway as far a import/export.

As mentioned it's not worth the risk.
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Just for fun .. A steel blade is organic as it contains carbon.
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I agree with @PlantedRich: we import enough from the East (and South and West) to lug rocks back home. Go American! (or Australian).
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Shanked with a carrot? Better than BEET to death. The beet makes such a bloody looking wound!
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Thanks for all your answers, guess I'll buy locally.

Does anyone know where I can buy affordable Seiryu/Ryuoh Rocks in Melbourne, or online in Australia?

Thanks.
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problem is taking the rocks into australia. Its fine to take plants/rocks out of Japan... I've done quite a few times by now.

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I dont all the laws, but you are running a risk everytime you purchase or take something from another country that is organic, that includes even buying plants online overseas if the proper documentation isnít provided. If you get stopped at the airport YOU are the importer and will always run the risk of being tagged an illegal importer which can lead to additional searches, home inspection, etc.

Not worth it.
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