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Sand top layer

I have a 55 gallon that has pool filter sand in it at the moment for a hardscape, but I was thinking of putting down a layer of something beneficial for plants and then layering the sand on top of that. Anyone had any problems doing this previously, and if not any suggestions for a specific substrate?
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 01-09-2011, 03:13 PM
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Pool filter sand works well over mineralized topsoil.

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Will the sand eventually end up at beneath the soil because it seems like it's denser.
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No, MTS is about the same density as the sand. Fine particles migrate to the bottom and large ones migrate upwards. I think that holds true even if the fines are less dense, as long as they don't float. It happens because fines sink into tiny openings, then slight movement of the larger particles opens some more fine openings, until finally all of the fines end up at the bottom. It even happens in ordinary dirt in a farm field. You can remove all of the rocks from such a field, and a year later another batch has worked its way up to the surface.

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Is there a specific brand of soil that you would use Hoppy?
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I use a shovel or gardening trowel, and just scoop some up outdoors. I refuse to pay for dirt!

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Soil from outside can be used in a tank?
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Absolutely! Have a look at the mineralized topsoil threads (there are a lot of them) and the low tech threads.
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Where do you live Hoppy? Wondering if the dirt in my backyard in Denver will suffice?
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yes our soil is ok its mostly clay with some topsoil. most houses in your area dont have much topsoil unless they relandscaped and added it it has almost no fe though so make sure to add some in. i would be sure that no pesticides have been used that might leach into the water colum though.
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yes our soil is ok its mostly clay with some topsoil. most houses in your area dont have much topsoil unless they relandscaped and added it it has almost no fe though so make sure to add some in. i would be sure that no pesticides have been used that might leach into the water colum though.
Yea I have lived here for 15 years, it's all clay dirt in my yard. What kind of fertilizer and or topsoil would you add to the dirt?
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