anerobic pockets? - The Planted Tank Forum
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 11-23-2004, 02:52 AM Thread Starter
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
Barbels's Avatar
 
PTrader: (1/100%)
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Colorado
Posts: 520
anerobic pockets?

I am seeing medium to large bubbles regularly rising from a couple places in my substrate (100% Eco-Complete). Are these definite indicators of anerobic pockets?
If so, I'm wondering if I didn't cause them by insisting on dumping in ammonia initially. Plus this Eco-Complete seems so dang dense.
Am I doomed? Or is there a way to remedy them?
My water smells fresh, but I suppose that could change.

~Behold the Savior of mankind,
nailed to the shameful tree.
How vast the love that Him inclined,
to bleed and die for thee.~
Filstar #79
Barbels is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 11-23-2004, 11:45 AM
PT Biologist
 
SCMurphy's Avatar
 
PTrader: (4/100%)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Maryland USA
Posts: 3,220
Tell us more about the tank, plants, water conditions, age, lighting,,,it might not be what you think.

Sean

Aquascape? I'm a crypt farmer.

It's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking like an idiot.

That IS an aquascape, it's titled "The Vacant Lot".
SCMurphy is offline  
post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old 11-23-2004, 02:14 PM
Guest
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,165
eco complete doesn't seem to pack down tight enough for gas pockets ot easily form.
how old is the tank? its easy for air to get trapped when setting up a new tank..and the bubbles will escape for a couple of weeks.
malkore is offline  
 
post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 11-23-2004, 08:45 PM
Wannabe Guru
 
trenac's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: North Carolina, Traid area
Posts: 1,044
I've had Eco-complete in my 20G tank since setup a year ago and it has always released air bubbles, not consistently but periodically. I never had any odor and the MTS's stayed buried during the day, so in my case I assume it is normal.

He who angers you, controls you!
trenac is offline  
post #5 of 10 (permalink) Old 11-23-2004, 08:58 PM
Ibn
Planted Tank VIP
 
Ibn's Avatar
 
PTrader: (9/100%)
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 3,212
I wouldn't worry too much about it. It happens right after the substrate has been set up, and isn't exclusive to eco-complete. I just started the 90G on saturday and there's plenty of air pockets in the substrate (combo of old substrate mix of playsand/peat/fluorite and pool filter sand on top of it). I released some of it, not intentionally, while planting/replanting. Over time, you won't even noticed it as it goes away.

Eric


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Ibn is offline  
post #6 of 10 (permalink) Old 11-24-2004, 12:04 AM
Wannabe Guru
 
cich's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Kelowna, BC, Canada
Posts: 1,062
Send a message via MSN to cich
If it becomes a persistant problem, if you can get a hold of a few MTS (they multiply like crazy), they will work up your substrate without damaging or disturbing roots. I find they keep mine quite loose and healthy-looking (the substrate).

--cich

Plants are gone, but my 33gal and I are back after a long hiatus.
cich is offline  
post #7 of 10 (permalink) Old 11-24-2004, 04:10 AM Thread Starter
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
Barbels's Avatar
 
PTrader: (1/100%)
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Colorado
Posts: 520
Thank you. I feel better.
The tank is just about one month old.
75 gallons.
Nitrite, zero.
Ammonia, zero.
Nitrate 40-ish? These color cards make it hard for me to decide.
KH seems to be around 5 and pH 7.0 since I increased Co2 (pressurized, 1.8 bps).
Um, those are the only test kits I have.

Yamato Green ferts. 220 watts compact fluorescents.
Plants are really making themselves at home, but still a bunch of old crud that needs to eventually finish dying off.

I did my 50% water change today and rooted around in that area of the substrate. I am glad to hear that Eco-Complete isn't especially prone to anerobic pockets. I really enjoy it but was worried that it might be more likely to compact. I have heard many good things about the stuff, and I feel like it will be soft on tender barbels.

Oh yeah, I did find a baby MTS and dropped him in. Yes, I have seen the way they can burrow.
My complaint is with those plain, roundish snails that are taking over.

~Behold the Savior of mankind,
nailed to the shameful tree.
How vast the love that Him inclined,
to bleed and die for thee.~
Filstar #79
Barbels is offline  
post #8 of 10 (permalink) Old 11-24-2004, 11:48 AM
PT Biologist
 
SCMurphy's Avatar
 
PTrader: (4/100%)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Maryland USA
Posts: 3,220
Yup, since the tank is one month old, the bubbles are most probably just trapped air. Nothing to worry about.

Sean

Aquascape? I'm a crypt farmer.

It's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking like an idiot.

That IS an aquascape, it's titled "The Vacant Lot".
SCMurphy is offline  
post #9 of 10 (permalink) Old 11-26-2004, 02:55 AM
Planted Tank Guru
 
Robert H's Avatar
 
PTrader: (31/100%)
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Salem Oregon
Posts: 2,328
I am curious if anyone has found that the so called live bacteria in Eco complete works? Anyone seen eveidence of it, or is it all hooey?

Robert Paul Hudson

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Kindness like love is unconditional
Robert H is offline  
post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old 11-26-2004, 08:24 AM
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
Opiesilver's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Terre Haute, IN
Posts: 638
I think it's hooey myself. The only product that is live bacteria that really works in my opinion is Bio-Spira.

Del Goins

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Opiesilver is offline  
Reply

Tags
None

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Planted Tank Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome