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flourite or mts for 75 gal

hi i was wondering what you guys would recommend mts or flourite or a little bit of both. because i can get a flourite bag for 9$ a bag and was wondering if its better to just do all flourite or go around town and find the materials to do mts. i already researched my towns availability on turface or sas and there is either a 5 bag limit or none.
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$9 a bag for flourite? Wow!

I'd do MTS topped with Flourite black, personally. (Which is what I did in my 46gal...)

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A little off topic but how long would you anticipate your substrate lasting before there is no more benefit from the mts? It's always such a job to replace substrate.


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No replacement needed in anything less than 8 years. I have MTS under gravel and use osmocote fertcicles. Trust lauralee

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If nothing needs replacing for 8 years then why do you replenish the mts with ferticles?


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I have had my tank set up now for over 2 years with no real issues. I dose every now and then, but nothing of any large amounts. you can always make up your own fert tabs in the form of ice cubes and push them down into the substrate.

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Ok, so if I'm understanding correctly if you have mts AND you dose dry ferts you can make the substrate last for a very long time yet have the flexibility to say, go on vacation and not have to worry about dosing your dry ferts. On the other hand if you don't supplement the tank with dry ferts or the like you will deplete your mts in as little as a couple of years. Does that sound right?


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If you read the article by Aaron Talbot, he and Sean Murphy (who developed the MTS method Aaron wrote up) only dose the occasional potassium and that's it.

Sean's MTS tank has been going strong for over 8 years.

Personally I don't dose anything at all, though I do put some root tabs under my bigger Crypts, but I also have my tank set up as a low light/low tech.

You can dose additional ferts if you want to- whatever works!





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Ok, so if I'm understanding correctly if you have mts AND you dose dry ferts you can make the substrate last for a very long time yet have the flexibility to say, go on vacation and not have to worry about dosing your dry ferts. On the other hand if you don't supplement the tank with dry ferts or the like you will deplete your mts in as little as a couple of years. Does that sound right?
Just as Lauralee states above, you don't have to dose but it can make your mts last longer, especially in a low light tank. I actually haven't put any ferts in my tank now for months and it is doing great. You would be able to go on vacation, and neglect it to a point if you really wanted to without causing harm. Best decision I ever made with my tank next to nerites!

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thanks Laura! Still bustin my balls huh?
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haha its ok but yeah i see my question is for like people who tend to move alot would u still recommend mts?
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haha its ok but yeah i see my question is for like people who tend to move alot would u still recommend mts?
sure. Mts is the way to go IMO. You can reuse the topsoil when you move, just strain it out from your capping material.



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