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I have a 55 gallon tank which will be heavily planted and somewhat of a budget tank. So... I am thinking about using turface under some pea gravel. The plan is to have the rear half be the turface covered in gravel and the front half be pool filter sand for my cories to have fun in. The dividing line between the 2 sections will not be perfectly straight to depict realism. I have heard countless times that turface is very cec but that the nutrient level is practically zero. When I set this up do I just push plant tabs into the substrate(recommendations for a good brand)? What ferts should I add to the water column to aid my plants(recommendations)? Lighting is a 54 watt single T5 High Output fixture. I will have diy co2 (2 or 3 2liter bottles yeast solution) for the time being until I can afford a decent pressurized setup. Thank you for your time and information.
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Before placing Turface in your tank, soak it for 24hrs. in a solution of fertilisers. This way you charge it for several month...
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Sounds good to allow the Turface to soak up the fertilizer ahead of time.

It won't work to put gravel or sand on top of Turface. Turface is lighter and will drift up, and the sand and gravel will sift down.
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Which fertilizers should I soak it in? Any particular ratios of these fertilizers? Is there anything I can put over the turface to prevent it from going all over my tank when the cories and other fish deside they want to stir it up? As you can see I'm really new to all of this and need as much help as I can get. lol. Thanks.
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The trouble with "soaking" it is that while it has a good cec, it will still leach a large portion of these very quickly. The cec doesn't create any binding effect, so they just drift outwards.

The best/easiest method is with some form of substrate nutrient/tab/etc. Lots of people have success using turface with a few root tabs and good water column dosing.
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Wouldn't it be possible to use a geotextile to keep the sand/gravel and turface separated? You know the stuff that is made to keep diffrent geos separetad and let water through?
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I would use rootmedic Complete caps from aquariumfertilizer.com and u could also get ur dry ferts from there. Just remember u need ur NPK and trace for nutrients. I'm a newbie when it comes to dry ferts, I just started with the pps-pro method By Edward a couple of weeks ago. Here is the link below.

http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/f...e-pps-pro.html

If u using co2 I would add another 54 watt bulb to make it at least 2wpg.
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According to many the wpg method is horribly outdated when it comes to t5HO lighting. Thank you all for your time. I really appreciate it.
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Cationic Exchange Capacity is a way that fertilizers bind to the soil particles. That is the reason we use high CEC substrates. These substrates hold the fertilizers until the plants do something (exchange cations) to release the fertilizer.

You could try a weed mat sort of stuff, it would keep things separated. Impossible to work with to plant, though, and if it starts working its way up anywhere you will have to redo a major part of it to put the little bit back where it came from and make it stay there.
This is not a new concept, and many materials have been tried over the years. Mostly the method is not used because it causes more problems than it solves.

Very roughly 2 wpg of T-12 = 1 wpg T-5, but this is rough, depends on reflectors and the actual wavelengths of the bulbs. Often T-5 fixtures, designed for aquarium use, have much better reflectors than the T-12 set ups.
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