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Message for Buck!

I just visited your site and seen you are using Black moon sand. I have just about found somewhere that sells it and was looking for a few tips on using it. I currently have eco complete in this tank but i find it too light in weight for Glosso to stick to the surface, will this help?

Any general info would be great.

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I know I am no buck, but maybe my experience will help you.

I use Tahitian moon sand in one of my low tech low light 10 gallon tanks. If you use this sand, it is great for planting hard to hold plants but has 0 nutrients in it naturally. I put root tabs under all my root feeders and it works great.

In this tank I grow out my sword plantlets to about 10" tall and with the root tabs they seem to grow just as fast, if not faster, than the ones in the main tank with eco. I also grow crypts out in this tank and they seem to be right on par with my other crypts that are in eco.

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Hi Gemlegatt,
The sand is very nice and it definately helps, I did glosso in a MoonSand/Eco combo and it worked very well for planting. Eventually the sand layer finds its way down but by then the glosso has matured and rooted itself well enough. Every now and then I take a handful or two of the sand, rinse it, and lay it over an area just for looks...then it gets mixed in and your back to square one again but it is never a waste, sand in a substrate never hurts ya, it makes a good seal for root tabs and keeps the nutrients where they belong... in the substrate.

Its pricey stuff but I love Moon Sand with Eco-Complete, its actually jet black in color. You could buy just one bag for the glosso planting area to help hold it in place but I guarantee you will want more... LOL

Good luck with the glosso...
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Cheers, i was going to put something under it cause i know that just because it is black, it is still sand after all! I really like how clean it looks a tetras look great over it. Will a bag do a 10g?

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Maybe you can use enough sand to "submerge" the Eco-Complete in sand?
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Since you allready have the Eco in there, one bag is plenty. Now im gonna warn ya... RINSE IT, RINSE IT... then one more time... LOL
I pour it in a bucket and run a garden hose in it until the water runs clear. At the same time the water is running I work it with my hand. It has particles in it that are fine as flour and it will stick to everything if you dont rinse it good.

Believe me... this is the voice of stupidity, oops, I mean "experience" speaking
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I will do buck, your tank looks really good with the black sand in it. I just got delivery of 2 x 24 watt power compacts today for my 10g and my hood, inspired by you will be fitted tommorow!

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Those lights will be perfect Gem, dont forget to take some photos... they are great to look back on ... and of course to share with others !
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Hey all and buck, i just put the light in the hood and fired them up and the were not that bright, one half of each bulb is blue 12000k and the other is pink 8000k i got them from here

http://www.aquatics-online.co.uk/lis...tp=42&rets=102

These bulbs are sold as Plant bulbs but they also do a daylight 7100k and a freshwater 7100k + 8000k , should i have bought these or a combination?

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