ADA Aquasoil Powder type only? - The Planted Tank Forum
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 05-20-2010, 03:28 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (2/100%)
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: NY
Posts: 59
ADA Aquasoil Powder type only?

I am in the planning stages of a new 12 gallon long tank and am planning on using ADA Aquasoil for the substrate. My question is if I can use just the powder type? The normal type looks to me like the grain size is too big for a small tank. I was also reading through the substrate section from ADA, and they seem to recommend using the normal type to create the slope and then capping it with the powder type so only that is visible. I was also taking to the guys at my LFS where I will be buying it, and they recommend to not go deeper than 1/2 to 1 inch with the powder type. My only concern with doing this is I would think the Powder type would eventually sift down into the normal type and not really be visible anymore.

So has anyone used just the Powder type for a settup? How did it work out?

Thanks,
Mark
bikeny is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 05-20-2010, 03:42 PM
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
knm<><'s Avatar
 
PTrader: (9/100%)
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Oahu, HI
Posts: 789
You're probably right about the sifting. I have eco complete and the finer grains tend to work their way to the bottom. I would also think the powder type would constantly be floating around in the tank, stirred up by your fish and your water flow. I always thought the powder type was a base for UNDER the normal aquasoil.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
| Mr Aqua 7.5 Cube Paludarium | Zoo Med Nano Tall & Small Tall Vivariums
Fraternity of Dirt #168
knm<>< is offline  
post #3 of 13 (permalink) Old 05-20-2010, 05:15 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (2/100%)
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: NY
Posts: 59
Here is the ADA layout manual I was taking about. It clearly shows the powder type on top:

http://www.adana-usa.com/includes/te...t%20Manual.pdf
bikeny is offline  
 
post #4 of 13 (permalink) Old 05-20-2010, 05:50 PM
Wannabe Guru
 
dj2005's Avatar
 
PTrader: (56/100%)
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: California
Posts: 1,197
I use normal and powder (together) in my 10g. The powder will sift to the bottom if normal is used. And just some information that may be helpful: powder's granules are about 1/7 the size of normal Aquasoil granules.

I personally prefer normal over powder as there is less chance of cloudiness, more efficient use of nutrients from plants (from what I've read), and normal tends to keep slopes better in my experience.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
,
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
,
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
dj2005 is offline  
post #5 of 13 (permalink) Old 05-20-2010, 05:53 PM
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (43/100%)
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 102
Regular and powder type Aquasoil are the same. Powder type is normally use for cosmetic appearance, so there's nothing wrong with using it as the only substrate except it's more expensive.
Tonysok is offline  
post #6 of 13 (permalink) Old 05-20-2010, 06:58 PM
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: San Diego
Posts: 25
i use all powder in my 11.4. Its not really a powder, its more the size of a pellet(food) and it doesn't float at all. Just expect to cycle longer like all Amazonia substrates. My HC clings well to this type vs regular.
-MJ- is offline  
post #7 of 13 (permalink) Old 05-20-2010, 09:50 PM
Planted Tank Obsessed
 
ldk59's Avatar
 
PTrader: (17/100%)
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Jackson, MI
Posts: 492
Send a message via Yahoo to ldk59
I use the regular in all of my tanks, including the Mini-M... IMHO the grain size is fine.

BTW, my HC has no problem rooting into the "normal" AS...
ldk59 is offline  
post #8 of 13 (permalink) Old 05-21-2010, 01:20 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (2/100%)
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: NY
Posts: 59
Thanks for the replies everyone. Seems like a little bit of everything, some just normal, some both and some just powder. I am planning an HC carpet in front and also think the powder type would be better for it's small roots. BTW, what are the grain sizes of each one? I still have not seem any in person, only in pictures!

Thanks,
Mark

PS: and yes I am aware of the ammonia issues.
bikeny is offline  
post #9 of 13 (permalink) Old 05-21-2010, 04:32 PM
Wannabe Guru
 
dj2005's Avatar
 
PTrader: (56/100%)
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: California
Posts: 1,197
Quote:
Originally Posted by bikeny View Post
Thanks for the replies everyone. Seems like a little bit of everything, some just normal, some both and some just powder. I am planning an HC carpet in front and also think the powder type would be better for it's small roots. BTW, what are the grain sizes of each one? I still have not seem any in person, only in pictures!

Thanks,
Mark

PS: and yes I am aware of the ammonia issues.
You can use powder in the front of the tank and normal in the back, just put a divider in the tank.

Length of a random piece of normal and powder:
Normal: 6-7mm
Powder: 1-1.5mm


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
,
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
,
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
dj2005 is offline  
post #10 of 13 (permalink) Old 06-02-2010, 04:43 AM
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: May 2010
Location: non USA
Posts: 9
i use only the normal but now also considering using power for the front as it looks better.
arthuryeo is offline  
post #11 of 13 (permalink) Old 06-04-2010, 06:19 AM
Planted Member
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 184
A 12 gallon is a little large for using just the powder type, but it is still acceptable. Mostly the powder type is used by itself in very small/nano tanks (let's say under 10 gallons, or like the ADA Mini S or Mini M). If it were me I would get a 3 liter bag of normal type and a 3 liter bag of powder type, use the full 3 liter bag or normal and cap to desired depth (usually sloping back to front) with the powder.
jsenske is offline  
post #12 of 13 (permalink) Old 06-04-2010, 01:07 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (2/100%)
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: NY
Posts: 59
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsenske View Post
A 12 gallon is a little large for using just the powder type, but it is still acceptable. Mostly the powder type is used by itself in very small/nano tanks (let's say under 10 gallons, or like the ADA Mini S or Mini M). If it were me I would get a 3 liter bag of normal type and a 3 liter bag of powder type, use the full 3 liter bag or normal and cap to desired depth (usually sloping back to front) with the powder.
Thanks for the response. I was already thinking that is what I would do. The tank is only about 8.5 inches front to back, so its pretty narrow, like a stretched out nano tank. My LFS just got a shipment of ADA substrates in so I am going to head over and see what they have. It's not cheap, but it still ends up cheaper tham mail order because of the shipping.

Mark
bikeny is offline  
post #13 of 13 (permalink) Old 06-05-2010, 05:16 AM
Planted Member
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 184
Cool! What's your LFS there in NY?
jsenske is offline  
Reply

Tags
None

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Planted Tank Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome