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Flourite? Whats it like

Hi i am thinking of buying a load of flourite for a new set-up, i live in the uk and i has only recently became easy to come by, whats it like? does it cloud water etc....... I am used to using the dennerle type system with lots of quartz (small grain) over the "soil" with heating cables.

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Has anyone tried this stuff?

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Flourite is popular.

Treated carefully, it does not cause clouding. But you would do well to do a search on this board and some others to learn about planted tank enthusiasts' experiences and related advice.

My personal advice is to place it in a bucket, squeeze out an old filter over it, add a little water to cover, and let it dry out completely over several days. It can become a little smelly during this process. When completely dry, lay out on newspaper to make sure, place in your aquarium, plant and fill carefully with water.

Other people repeatedly wash Flourite to rid it of dust. It requires a lot of washing. By using the method I have detailed above, you will find that the small dust-sized particles bind to the main grains.

I also add some coarse silica sand to Flourite. Flourite by itself is a bit coarse, IMO. The sand makes it easier for plants such as Eleocharis, Marsilea etc to establish roots.

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my main concern that it was to course to lets some plants with runners pick through it easily, i'll maybe mix it with something else.......

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I've rinsed it a little, I've rinsed it alot ..... either way, it'll cloud up at first. after a day, it's pretty clear. I, personally, prefer the look of Eco-complete but the flourite works well too.

It's got lots of "sharp-edged" pieces which I learned when one jammed under my fingernail .... other then that, it's all good.
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Once I figured out the secret to washing Flourite I have never had a problem with it clouding the tank. Also I place a plate over the substrate and slowly add the water. Works pretty well. I can wash a bag of Flourite in about 10-15 minutes MAX. I agree cutting it with up to 50% coarse sand (based on depth not weight) works quite well.
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i'll try it, it only been easy to come by for a short time and no one stocks it, i have managed to find a online site which does it in the UK.

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My flourite looks good, 100% flourite, 2 bags of regular flourite and 1 bag of flourite red, I mixed them evanly. I never washed the bags (should NOT do this ha) and from planting plants my water is cloudy for like 2 days afterwards lol
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from my understanding you are not suppose to was flourite? Washes away the "good stuff"


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Flourite is good stuff, if you wash it good and use a plate on substrate to fill, there will be almost no cloud at all, crystal clear in a few hours
I have a couple of tanks with Flourite/sand no complaints, I actually like it better than Eco Complete, but thats a personal preference thingy

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from my understanding you are not suppose to was flourite? Washes away the "good stuff"
What "good stuff" would that be? The dust that can require a diatom filter to get rid of? You can't wash away the iron. But you can wash away the dust. If you wash the Flourite correctly you will retain all the "fines" but rid yourself of the dust. And it can be very very dusty.
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What "good stuff" would that be? The dust that can require a diatom filter to get rid of? You can't wash away the iron. But you can wash away the dust. If you wash the Flourite correctly you will retain all the "fines" but rid yourself of the dust. And it can be very very dusty.
Well from my personal experience, i cant say that washing or not washing Flourite has made a difference in my plants, as far as "good stuff" is concerned. I was always told that washing it was not needed. The dust does cause the water to be cloudy, but it usually goes away in a day.


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but if you don't wash is Marc, it'll come back with a wicked vengence whenever you do anything in your tank.

Plus the last 3 bags of flourite I used had large dirt clods in them. Adding a 1/4cup of mud to my precious tank would make Malkore a very angry plant geek.
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malkore- yes that is very true. I was just always told not to wash it, so i never did. after a couple of water changes it was alot better...so i guess you guys are right- save your self the trouble and wash it out.


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I have recently used onyx (by Seachem), but has also used flourtie in another tank. So far its proved to be great. I have a difficult time growing hairgrass in pure flourite because it was coarse. If you are going to use flourite, you may want to mix it with a finer substrate as well. And everyone is right... its a pain to clean.. not your ordinary gravel.. but seems to be worth it in results!
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