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Question Seachem Flourite, Flourite Dark, or Flourite Black?

Hello peeps, I'm wanting to start my first freshwater planted tank. I'm about to purchase the lights (AquaticLife T5 HO Light Link Fixture - FreshWater, 48" 2x54w) and I made one of the DIY co2 kits with a coke bottle. I was curious if one fluorite is better than the other? Here are the 3 I'm looking at. Seachem Flourite, Flourite Dark, or Flourite Black

Concentration of nutrients in Flourite™:

Aluminum
10210
Barium
124
Calcium
195
Cobalt
6
Chromium
13
Copper
17
Iron
18500
Potassium
2195
Magnesium
2281
Manganese
64
Sodium
223
Nickel
12
Vanadium
15
Zinc
29

Fluorite Dark:
Aluminum
2166
Barium
3
Calcium
2378
Cobalt
2
Chromium
5
Copper
11
Iron
5326
Potassium
136
Magnesium
2422
Manganese
384
Sodium
269
Nickel
3
Vanadium
3
Zinc
60

Fluorite Black
Aluminum
33510
Barium
19
Calcium
20950
Cobalt
4
Chromium
7
Copper
17
Iron
4338
Potassium
374
Magnesium
1868
Manganese
51
Sodium
5484
Nickel
9
Vanadium
11
Zinc
9

I have some dwarf cockatoo cichlid's German Blue Rams and cardinal tetras. I'm going to get low to medium light plants since my wpg is around 2. Needing some wisdom =)
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Really the main benefit to using Flourite is that it has a high CEC- meaning its ability to absorb nutrients from the water column and hold them for plant roots. So the difference to plants between the actual mineral content between the different Flourites is minimal to nonexistent.

Pick whichever one you like the color of best, that's what most people do. Personally, I like the blacks.

DO make sure to rinse it VERY well before adding to the tank, though!





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Would you suggest Flourite as my best option or go with another substrate? I just don't want to buy the wrong one. I'm pretty sure Ill be going with Flourite black if Flourite is best.
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I've been using the same batch of flourite for over 5 years and it doesn't appear to be disintegrating yet. I'm guessing it will last indefinitely. Some other products are only good for a few years. Something to keep in mind.

I would say the older my flourite has gotten, the better my crypts have grown. I have to rip out clumps of crypts every few months.
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which ever one u choose is fine but it works even better if u use flora base with it. Use half of florite and half of flora base it works great together with great results.
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Florabase disintegrates quickly. Not worth it at all. It is designed to be replaced every year.

Flourite with good root tabs (cough ) and good column dosing works great.
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Awesome tips, I am looking for something that will last a long time. I am not a big fan of re-doing my tank every year. Also... Your saying it will absorb minerals from the water. Do i need to use plant Additives/Supplements? as in fertilizer?
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Probably, but it depends on your lighting and bioload. If you go with a well-stocked low light setup, the plants may be able to obtain all the nutrients they need from fish waste and respiration (which is the way I personally set up my own tanks).

If you go with a higher light setup, the plants will grow more quickly and therefore need additional nutrients.





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Florabase disintegrates quickly. Not worth it at all. It is designed to be replaced every year.

Flourite with good root tabs (cough ) and good column dosing works great.
What brand root tabs do you use? And how do you use them?


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I've been using the same batch of flourite for over 5 years and it doesn't appear to be disintegrating yet. I'm guessing it will last indefinitely. Some other products are only good for a few years. Something to keep in mind.
I would say the older my flourite has gotten, the better my crypts have grown. I have to rip out clumps of crypts every few months.
2+ years and seems to be good to go forever in the tank. Used as a capping material in my mineralized and soil tanks too. My personel favorite.
Same experience on two of my tanks having to pull various crypts.

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Florabase disintegrates quickly. Not worth it at all. It is designed to be replaced every year.
Flourite with good root tabs (cough ) and good column dosing works great.
Used Flora-base in addition to an existing tank with river gravel substrate (my first planted tank). It turned into 'filler' between the rocks. Along the glass above the tank frame Flora-base looks like mud or mortar between the pebbles.

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What brand root tabs do you use? And how do you use them?
Shameless plug!! ROFL no really, where's the plug's?
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Guess I did miss something. Wasn't aware of the root tab pole.


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can i high jack the thread for a second and ask, how much flourite i will need for a 110 gallon long. 72x16x22

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can i high jack the thread for a second and ask, how much flourite i will need for a 110 gallon long. 72x16x22
Have you checked out the substrate calculator we have?

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DO make sure to rinse it VERY well before adding to the tank, though!
DO THIS!!!! I didnt rinse mine very well and I have been trying to filter out the clay cloud for 2 weeks using clarifiers and extra floss. I liked the color I got, regular flourite, but it is fairly light. You will be able to uproot plants easily until they are established.

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