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Substrate for a 110g

Ok so I'll make this a short story. My tank sprung a leak last night(My tank is a 110g 48x18x30). Now I have the opportunity to switch things around. My substrate was just gravel(like some stones from petsmart). Also running a undergravel filter. I was wondering if I should switch over to a different substrate.

Would my plants benefit? I was wondering if it would be cost effective for a tank my size? Or if I'm just better off using the gravel I have now.





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Short answer is a big YES! Your plants would benefit in a huge way. The most cost effective way is simply to use natural potting soil which takes 4-6 weeks to settle in (done it). I used MS kits from Ken for a 110g tank with no regrets there either but the cost was 150% more but no spike in chemicals as with the natural soil. Removing the under gravel filter is required either way.


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Be careful about potting soil don't go to a big box store (Wal-Mart/Sams/Home Depot/Lowes/etc) as they do not sell any that isn't 90% pine bark which is great for terrestrial garden plants but bad for aquariums.

Go to a landscaping or orchard supply store and get the bags that have no fertilizers (if it doesn't say no ferts then it has them) they will be about $4-$5 for a 50lb bag use that as your main filler to keep your costs down. You will need to cap it to keep it out of your water column I've used SMS, Turface, and PFS before and they work great plus there cheap but I know other people have used Flourite and Eco to great success.

To make it look nicer I add my substrates like a pie crust, I make a one inch wide by three inch tall ring around the bottom of the tank with my cap substrate then fill in the pie filling (potting soil) and then put the pie crust on top (cap) that way you won't have a two toned look at the bottom.

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Great post by Bradac

I gave the short answer to the quick question
The method he described was used on these two tanks containing the rich substrate material. Using some egg crate material also keeps things from creeping.
https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/lo...-soil-sub.html
https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/ta...k-warning.html


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How much would you need for a 110g?
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What are the dimensions?

Length x width x depth (measured in inches) = cubic inches.
Now divide by 1728 to get cubic feet.

Most rocks, sand and gravel run pretty close to 100 lbs per cubic foot.
Garden soil that is mostly sand/silt/clay will be just about that, too. A bit less if it has a lot of compost in it.
Soil Master Select and more organic material products (Potting mixes and soil conditioners) are about half that.

You want to avoid too much organic matter, compost and such in a potting soil. Perhaps look for something labeled topsoil, but read the label CAREFULLY. Copy it and post the list here for more input.
Soil from the garden can work, but it is a specialty sort of project to set that up. Cheap, though!
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48.875" x19"x30.75=28555.21875/1728=16.525


Diana what substrate do you recommend?
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48.875" x19"x30.75=28555.21875/1728=16.525


Diana what substrate do you recommend?

She meant, multiply the area of the tank bottom (48*18) by the depth of substrate you want (ie 2.5"), so 48*18*2.5, and then convert that to cubic feet, /1728=1.25 cubic feet of substrate, or around 125 pounds.


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oh ok thanks lol. Thanks for the help everyone. Still can't make my mind up. There's a place by my house that sells Soilmaster Select which is like the 5g bucket from aquariumplants.

So I could go with

AP 5g bucket for $65
Soilmaster Select price idk
20 lb bag Eco Complete $28-30
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I'd go with SoilMaster Select any day if it's a Lesco or John Deere store then it's probably going to run you about $10 for a 50lb bag which is a great price.

Most of my tanks are running SMS or Lesco's new product Turface which is great stuff for the same price.

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Nice that nice sounds good $10 a bag lol that's cheap. I think I'll be looking to get 3 bags so 150 lbs nice. for alittle over $30
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It varies a bit but I don't think I've ever paid more than $15 for a bag.

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