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There is nothing wrong with ordering solenoids from China, as long as you know what you are getting (ensure it is made for continuous duty cycle, low power consumption, not 220V, etc)

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In your post you stated u had a link for solieniods?
I did find a burkert 6011 6bar 24v DC 4w which is one of 3-4 u listed so I think I'm just gonna grab that plus the store has a few in stock so ill grab a few back ups.

Do u know if they sell solieniods at Home Depot?
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In your post you stated u had a link for solieniods?
I did find a burkert 6011 6bar 24v DC 4w which is one of 3-4 u listed so I think I'm just gonna grab that plus the store has a few in stock so ill grab a few back ups.

Do u know if they sell solieniods at Home Depot?
In my post, I only stated I had PDF specification sheets.

If the Burkert you found is the one I am thinking of on eBay, then it requires a mount (which explains why nobody has purchased it )

Home Depot does not sell solenoids that can be used in our hobby, to the best of my knowledge.

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In my post, I only stated I had PDF specification sheets.

If the Burkert you found is the one I am thinking of on eBay, then it requires a mount (which explains why nobody has purchased it )

Home Depot does not sell solenoids that can be used in our hobby, to the best of my knowledge.
A mount ??
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Yes. You will need to purchase the mount separately (through Burkert, or to source it online somewhere) to be able to use that solenoid.

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Yes. You will need to purchase the mount separately (through Burkert, or to source it online somewhere) to be able to use that solenoid.
Thanks! I guess ill grab a china model then cuz that seem more reasonable I saw the one I think it was 240v or something like that they stated its not to be used in the USA so the one I get or have in mind should be the one I just tried to get a better one (quality) that's all. Thanks again.
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Thanks! I guess ill grab a china model then cuz that seem more reasonable I saw the one I think it was 240v or something like that they stated its not to be used in the USA so the one I get or have in mind should be the one I just tried to get a better one (quality) that's all. Thanks again.
I doubt you will find a solenoid that is better quality than Burkert from China

Be aware of the aforementioned things (voltage, continuous duty cycle, type of seal, power consumption, etc)

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I doubt you will find a solenoid that is better quality than Burkert from China

Be aware of the aforementioned things (voltage, continuous duty cycle, type of seal, power consumption, etc)
No I didn't mean by getting one from china would be better than a burkert I meant it the other way round I have to settle for one from there.

They only list power- AC 220v 50/60hz 6.0/4 5.va
Amp- 29mA
100% ED
Temp raise 35 centigrade
IP 65
1.4m cable
Weight 0.5 kg
They don't list nothing else on these that's why I tried to get a much better quality but I'm running out of time here I got so many plants floating into tank now waiting to be planted in the sand substrate I have cuz I don't have time to get the one I wanted.

Oh for the needle valve I got a sewagelok B-4L high flow 1/4" tube fitting. I know I wanna change the tube fittings to the barbs.
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The solenoid you listed is unsuitable for use in North America (as you are already aware...?)

I am not sure why you are using a high flow Swagelok metering valve - these generally have higher Cv values and might not have the precision required for (smaller) aquariums.

In any case, if you want to convert the tube fittings to barbs, Swagelok makes tube to hose barb adapters.

For your plants, you can plant them now, and just have your CO2 running 24/7 until you get a solenoid.

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The solenoid you listed is unsuitable for use in North America (as you are already aware...?)

I am not sure why you are using a high flow Swagelok metering valve - these generally have higher Cv values and might not have the precision required for (smaller) aquariums.

In any case, if you want to convert the tube fittings to barbs, Swagelok makes tube to hose barb adapters.

For your plants, you can plant them now, and just have your CO2 running 24/7 until you get a solenoid.
I haven't got the tank yet cuz it seems as though everything I pick to run it either wount work or I have to switch something for it to work. The only thing I have that I think will work is the smith regulator, as for the valve I'm gonna be running a 50gallon tank I wanted another valve but this is what came first for the money I had at the time so I grabed it.
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Solieniod

Darn nothing on eBay will work all are AC220.
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I haven't got the tank yet cuz it seems as though everything I pick to run it either wount work or I have to switch something for it to work. The only thing I have that I think will work is the smith regulator, as for the valve I'm gonna be running a 50gallon tank I wanted another valve but this is what came first for the money I had at the time so I grabed it.
There are usually adapters to make everything fit together.

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Darn nothing on eBay will work all are AC220.
Good luck with the hunt.

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What about either a AC100-240V or do u know anything about aquatec products they sell a solieniod I guess it's a replacement for one of there regs you think I can get that n hook to the smith reg I have? I doubt it! I also found one but it has no power plug just the fins sticking out on the side I guess u hook it to them?
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What about either a AC100-240V or do u know anything about aquatec products they sell a solieniod I guess it's a replacement for one of there regs you think I can get that n hook to the smith reg I have? I doubt it! I also found one but it has no power plug just the fins sticking out on the side I guess u hook it to them?
I don't think you can find a AC100-240V solenoid, but if you do find one, yes, it should work in North America.

For the Aquatek solenoid, it should work, provided that it fits the criteria I mentioned before.

If the solenoid has no power plug, you can use spade connectors to wire up the solenoid. If you do not have any electrical experience, I would suggest you get someone else to do the wiring for you, however.

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I don't think you can find a AC100-240V solenoid, but if you do find one, yes, it should work in North America.

For the Aquatek solenoid, it should work, provided that it fits the criteria I mentioned before.

If the solenoid has no power plug, you can use spade connectors to wire up the solenoid. If you do not have any electrical experience, I would suggest you get someone else to do the wiring for you, however.
I found a couple on eBay but they are about $40+ so if I get that (solieniod ) to make my regulator work which I paid $40 for that will be $80 now there are regulator set ups with everything for only $60-$250 so where am I Savin money buying all this seperate?

Shure the quality will be a bit off but it will work as I seen others on here useing the same regs that are about $100+ so what's my motivation to keep goin on the path I'm on now?????.......
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As you mentioned, the quality will be better for the same price.

An analogy: A bicycle and a car will get you from point A to point B. If you could have a car for the same price as a bicycle, would you still want the bicycle to get from point A to B?

All in one setups work, but can sometimes be unreliable.

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