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So I have a new idea! Currently I have a 40 breeder with 3 firebelly toads and about 15 endlers(they keep multiplying!) I siliconed a divider in and have a piece of driftwood in front

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So, I don't have much vertical space in the land area for plants. I'm thinking of upgrading to a 65 gallon!
My idea is to put maybe a 10 gallon tank inside the tank to make a "removable" totally separate land area so there's no need to worry about silicone. This way there will be water on the sides instead of seeing silicone and dirt like I do now.
I'm thinking of making a waterfall on both sides of the land area.

Has anyone done this? Stupid? Any better ideas?
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So I have a new idea! Currently I have a 40 breeder with 3 firebelly toads and about 15 endlers(they keep multiplying!) I siliconed a divider in and have a piece of driftwood in front

Don't mind the light. I changed it!

So, I don't have much vertical space in the land area for plants. I'm thinking of upgrading to a 65 gallon!
My idea is to put maybe a 10 gallon tank inside the tank to make a "removable" totally separate land area so there's no need to worry about silicone. This way there will be water on the sides instead of seeing silicone and dirt like I do now.
I'm thinking of making a waterfall on both sides of the land area.

Has anyone done this? Stupid? Any better ideas?

I've thought of this too! I think cleaning under and around it would be a bit of a hassle. I've never seen anyone do it, but you know somebody has tried it at least once. There are also odd shaped glass containers in hobby shops and even walmart that might work. I have considered those very large goldfish bowls.
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I've thought of this too! I think cleaning under and around it would be a bit of a hassle. I've never seen anyone do it, but you know somebody has tried it at least once. There are also odd shaped glass containers in hobby shops and even walmart that might work. I have considered those very large goldfish bowls.

I'm having a TERRIBLE time finding the size container I want for the "land" area! I've found at Petco a bookshelf aquarium which has great dimensions, is acrylic but costs $50 I don't want to spend that much to "bury" it. I can't seem to find anything used though..... What to do
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Build it yourself?
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It might be easier to do up a false bottom vivarium. Check out some of the builds here for ideas: Dendroboard

I would worry that the tank-within-a-tank might create uneven weight distribution on the larger tank, which might crack the glass. If you are set on it (rather than a false-bottom), would line the smaller tank's base with a soundproofing mat or some other layer that might help distribute the weight evenly.

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Its honestly not that hard, just look it up on google. I am a stickler for proper masking off anywhere you don't want silicone and giving everything a good alcohol wipe before applying any.

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I'm having a TERRIBLE time finding the size container I want for the "land" area! I've found at Petco a bookshelf aquarium which has great dimensions, is acrylic but costs $50 I don't want to spend that much to "bury" it. I can't seem to find anything used though..... What to do
Acrylic might be a bad idea for this application. It scratches easily. I'd go with glass. Also, regular pyrex/glass cookware comes in many shapes and sizes. It might be worth looking at for ideas.
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I am planning to cover the smaller tank so you can't see it at all. I was thinking the acrylic would be better than glass on glass.
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P.S. I got quote for acrylic tank from glass cages. $180! Yikes!! $50 doesn't seem so bad now! Lol

Also I'm going to have about 8" of water in the tank. Is a false bottom still feasible? How do you keep dirt contained? I don't want it to touch any side but the back. Another reason for the tank in tank
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How about siliconing pieces of glass to the back and bottom of your tank to make your island? You'd need only 3: two sides and the front. People do this all the time to make sumps, etc.

Framing shops can cut glass to order if you don't want to cut it yourself.

Or if you want to use acrylic...it's pretty easy to cut. I buy it from Amazon. It comes in various sizes and thicknesses, and you get it cut to order as well.
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I was thinking about that! I was worried the silicone might fail though. But I guess if I did glass to glass? I bought the tank today, but now I'm thinking it's not tall enough
I can't make up my mind!!
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Don't mind the closet rack. Temp spot.
So with my current piece of driftwood in front of this tank, it would give me about 6" of water space and 8" of land and 3" of the driftwood width. I have enough space on each side to run 2 filters for 2 waterfalls maybe. I still have to dismantle original tank to see how this will work. Does this seem cheesy?
The water can be almost 9" deep
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What is that? A small fishtank? A plastic shoebox?

If it's plastic, you might have to put some rocks in the bottom to keep it from floating.

Looks like a nice size for what you want, anyway.
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It's petcos "bookshelf" aquarium. 6.6 gallon.
24" x 9" x 8" it's acrylic. Seems a bit small, but any bigger I'll lose the water area. And my frogs don't exactly move around much! Lazy!!
I'm trying to carve "rocks" out of styrofoam now for waterfalls.....
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So you shelled out the $50?

Looks good to me!
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