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American Toad Terrarium?

I live in Wisconsin and I am wondering if anybody has experience or knowledge of raising an American Toad in a planted terrarium. I have tried to recreate their natural enviroment using some 1g aquariums I have laying around, but is that enough space for my 1/2in toad? I will post some pics of the two "mini" terrariums soon. I am a planning on spending $0 and any help is appreciated!

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blanchard's cricket frogs are pretty small, less than an inch.


Or Fowler's toad, 2-3 inches.. I caught these guys at the local river.


no experience raising them, just taking photos.

Just googled the smallest toad, it's this guy

Bufo quercicus (oak toad)


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I am pretty sure the toad I have is an Eastern American Toad (B. a. americanus) though it could be a BarkHousen Toad. The only reason he\she is that small if it is an E. A. Toad is because it hatched in june so it is less then 4 months old. Thanks!

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I am pretty sure the toad I have is an Eastern American Toad (B. a. americanus) though it could be a BarkHousen Toad. The only reason he\she is that small if it is an E. A. Toad is because it hatched in june so it is less then 4 months old. Thanks!
It's big enough for now, but won't be for too long. An adult should have at least 10 gallons with lots of places to hide and a very shallow water dish. For the time being you can feed him gut loaded/dusted pin head crickets, very small earthworms or wingless fruit flies.

They are curious little guys and if they feel safe enough with the enclosure you provide the will explore rather than hiding constantly.

If you walk through parts of forest at the right time of year you can see dozens of little ones (1/4 to 1/2 inch) hopping through the grass to get away.
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Thanks wondabread! I have a 10g and 20g that I could use, so that works out. Here is the pics I promised!
Plants: Grass, Moss and others from my yard
Lighting: Spiral Florecent bulb
Subtrate: Garden dirt with a little sand and plant matter mixed in.
Fauna: Eastern American Toad, I think!
Waterer: Plastic container put into the subtrate.
What do you think
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Whoops! I forgot to add Toadstools to the plant list!

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It doesn't need to be bright like a planted fish tank. Remember that amphibians might need some UVA/UVB in their light for proper digestion because they are cold blooded (I've been out of the herp hobby for some time now, so I've forgotten a lot). A little bit of natural sunlight will work just fine and is free. B. americanus lives on the forest floor most times which is usually dim. The light is mainly going to be for your plants to be able to photosynthesize properly.

Looks like a great little tank, like a slice of forest. I've kept American toads many times over the years, and they are fantastic pets.
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I have a couple herp questions. First, can I feed the toad mealworms, or some type of vegatable? Second, will he hibranate, in my 69`F house? I really like looking at this thing and really whant it to stay alive!

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I think the toad is trying to hibranate, he has dug a little hole and has gone into it, backfirst.

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i used to catch that kind of frog down the shore in Wildwood NJ all the time when i was younger. he might be boroughing because i think they live underground. when i cought them it was allways at night so its noctornal. sorry for my very poor spelling. hope this helps a little.
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Thanks jreich! During the early summer\late spring their are so many, you wouldnt believe! They breed in a small ditch that fills with water at the end of my feild. Its really cool! The ditch has several types of annual plants that I will probably use in the 10g when the toad grows.

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good luck! i would love to start a froggy tank but the girlfriend would want to kill me. already have a 29 planted tank a 5.5 planted shrimp tank, and a 55 with a monster ball python in it. in a 2 bedroom apartment. theres more tanks in my apartment then actual residents.
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Good luck getting your girlfreind to allow you to get another aquarium\terrarium.

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Good luck getting your girlfreind to allow you to get another aquarium\terrarium.
yea thats def not going to happen but thanks anyway!
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The toad will not hibernate at 69F.

The burrowing you are seeing is what toads do. It will come out when it's hungry or wants to watch tv or hit the treadmill or whatever...

If you want it to hibernate, you must drop the temp down to closer to freezing. I have never hibernated any of my herps, but it's not a bad idea to do it. If you do hibernate, make sure it is done in a dark cold place with good ventilation. The temp drop must be done slowly (over a week or two) and you need to look into changing feeding habits prior to hibernation. I don't remember if you stuff them to make sure they have enough fat to make it through the winter or starve them to make sure their stomachs are empty. It might be a combination of both.

It isn't really necessary to do it unless you are looking to breed.
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