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First riparrium: filtering options?

I am in the process of designing my first riparrium and have read a ton of threads and journals.

But now it is my turn to ask TPT for help: what are my viable filtration options?

I have read the threads on filterless tanks and that option has a great personal appeal. I just want to pick other people's brains before I get too far and kill my fish.

The plan is to upgrade from my 10g to a shallow 30g cube: 24" x 24" x 12" high. No co2, probably 2 x 19w spiral CFL suspended over the tank, AS Amazonia, a lot of dw, maybe Excel and ferts.

I might have to transition to riparrium in stages as I know very little still about marginal plants. I have a lot of aquatic plants to work with and my current list is a lot of different crypts, ambulia, Limno aromatica, sags, blyxa japonica, pennywort, red tiger lotus, HM, and java fern.

My current stock from the 10g are 20 Cory pygmeus, 7 sparkling gouramies, and 2 pairs of mated blue German rams, MTS and ramshorn snails, maybe shrimp later.

I have Finnex 360, Fluval 406, and Eheim 2075 available but I would rather not use a can if I can get away with it.

I have multiple types of bio media available that I can put under the substrate and/or in baskets for emergent plants and/or even hide some lava rock in the tank.

Would a power head/pump or 2 be enough for filtration/circulation/gas exchange? This would be my very first filter-less setup.

Thank you for any guidance and ideas.

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You beat me to it! I've been stalking my LFS waiting for this tank. I love all the shallow cubes on this site, looking forward to seeing yours too.

I'm curious to see what answers you'll get.


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Re: First riparrium: filtering options?

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That shallow cube sounds like a perfect shape for a riparium!
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You could probably circulate the water well enough with a powerhead or two, but if you have a lot of underwater plants you might want to use a canister filter. Plants can produce a lot of extra detritus. Will this setup have very many fish?
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My current stock from the 10g are 20 Cory pygmeus, 7 sparkling gouramies, and 2 pairs of mated blue German rams, MTS and ramshorn snails, maybe shrimp later.
Very heavily planted (as all of my tanks are). I love fish but I spend a lot more time on plants ...

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My LFS has a tank like that. I drool over it every time I'm in there. Can't wait to see this start.


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Would a power head/pump or 2 be enough for filtration/circulation/gas exchange? This would be my very first filter-less setup.
What works for me is Mini elite filter, it is more like a powerhead with a small sponge inside. eventhough it is rated for small tanks but it will creat good circulation especialy if you remove the sponge.
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If you go the powerhead route, it's hard to beat the diffused flow of a Koralia.


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First riparrium: filtering options?

I'd definitely consider a canister for a shallow tank like this. The equipment would be easily hidden.

Can't wait for PICS!

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I just ordered the Zoo Med 501 for mine. Currently I am using an airstone and my fish are doing just fine. Depends on what route you want to go.
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Re: First riparrium: filtering options?

There does not seem to be much support for a filter-less set up and I do not feel comfortable learning from my own mistakes in this case. So I will set this one with a Fluval and go from there.

Thanks a lot for all the comments.

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Re: First riparrium: filtering options?

I am putting the tank rightnow and will try Finnex px-360 by itself first. If it does not look good, I have a mini Coralia on stand by. Once emersed plants take off I'( see if I can get away with coralia only. <excited>

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