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Question Help with Terrarium plans (beginner)

So, I have this 30 gallon rimless tank that I have been wanting to do something with for a long time now. Thomas (my man) has pointed out that after our little "10 gallons all over the floor" incident, the 20g is pushing it for large tanks in our place - especially considering that we rent. For this reason, the 30 gallon has been sitting full of supplies and collecting dust for quite some time, it's driving me bonkers.
(I was actually going to sell it, but when I found out the people who wanted to buy it were planning to cram a bunch of frogs and toads from the local ponds/lakes in there, I just couldn't do it. I kept wild native reptiles as a youngin' but I knew what I was doing and was careful. These people has no idea what they were doing, so the frogs/toads they kept would likely suffer/parish and I just can't support that.)

Anyways, enough preface-ramble, I've finally come up with a plan for the 30g.

I've wanted to try my hand at Green Anole lizards again for quite some time. I owned them once before when I was about 8 and I failed miserably. All of the information I'd been given on them was wrong, my set up was all wrong and in turn it was a poor experience. However, the same thing happened with my first aquarium when I was young and I thought I'd never have another, but here I am!

Here is where this wonderful forum (and others like it) come into the picture. I am going to need a lot of help, as this will be my first real shot at a Terrarium.

They are Arboreal lizards, so I want to give the tank as much height as possible. My first idea was an extension/canopy, but in the long run, this seems like too much complication for a less satisfying result.

I have decided to stand the tank on it's side and create a door for the front. Here are the plans I have been looking at: http://www.frogforum.net/vivarium-te...struction.html

Because I am a total "newb" to Terriums, I will need as much help as I can get and without a doubt will have a lot of questions. Such as...

What is the best substrate to use in a planted terrarium that is warm and humid?
What plants would do well and look good in this setting?
What type of lighting would you suggest?

Thanks in advance for any input, it's greatly appreciated!

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sounds like a plan! i have a 75g i'm converting into a paludarium because i can't fill it with water (too big).

for substrate i would probably go with ABG (atlanta botanical gardens) mix which is 2 parts tree fern fiber, 1 part peat moss, 2 parts cocofiber, 1 part charcoal, and 2 parts orchid bark.

i would also do a small false bottom (maybe just an inch and a half to two inches) so it doesn't get saturated with water and can drain.

http://www.amphibiancare.com/frogs/a...lsebottom.html

there's a large amount of plants you could get for this. i would take a look through this site to give you an idea

www.tropicalplantz.com

and for lighting, you could go with compact fluorescent or regular tube fluerescent but CFs might be better since the tank with be on its side (high and narrow)

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Thanks a bunch for all the input! I will check out the links you posted.
I was also thinking of doing a false bottom for drainage.

I am wondering though... Will I even be able to go through with this using rimless tank?
Or would I be better off selling this one and using the $$$ to buy one with a rim.....

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not quite sure. i just skimmed over the door construction link. as i understand the door slides up and is held in place by the rim so having a rim would definitely be easier than creating one yourself, but i think it could be done on a rimless tank. you would also have to make sure it seals so water doesn't leak out the bottom.

you could probably sell the rimless tank for more than the cost of a cheap rimmed tank too depending on make/condition or just trade it.

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I think I have a bunch of false bottom spacers from my terrarium. If you want them you can have them for cost of shipping. They are super easy to make though, just some pvc pipe and a chop saw. In case you don't have access to the saw, I figured I'd offer.
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I''ve done a rimless vert and it looks great and works fine, so don't worry about that. (click my sig to see.)

You can do a "living hinge" and have the door swing open, or use channel and have sliding doors. A living hinge is one made of flexible material, usually running the entire length of the edge. You can make one from silicone, but you might want to purchase one.
The site you linked to credited dendroboard. That's where I got lots of my education. The construction forum there is very active and you can get decent advice.


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Thanks for the input everyone!

What a nice offer Nubster, I am going to send you a message....

tzen, that looks completely fantastic!
You may have changed my mind about switching out tanks.

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