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Keeping an olive python in a planted terrarium/paludarium

I have an olive python who is rapidly outgrowing her current viv, I am looking to build her a new enclosure and was wondering if anyone here had experience keeping snakes (olives are quite large) in planted terrariums/ paludarium.

Are there any traps I should look out for, I plan to stock the tank with plants local to her habitat which is tropical northern Australia, where they live among the rocks around creeks and water holes.

Can anyone help out a novice to the planted tank/terrarium world.

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Snakes aren't exactly light-footed (pun?) and they tend to lay on and smash any live plants that are put in with them, unless the plants are big and tough. You're probably better off sticking with rocks and wood for tank decor

Any pics of the guy? Olives are pretty uncommon in the herp hobby over here in the States.

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there are some plants and mosses that will work with reptiles. the chances of a snake that large damaging them are really good. mosses I'm iffy on with a lot of reptiles just because of the tendancy for mold to form in and around a constantly damp low lit spot that the moss requires.

IME the real problem is generally cleanliness of the habitat. its nearly impossible to keep the environment clean enough to prevent health problems. In nature the environment does its own cleaning. Even in a really large enclosure the urates and fecal matter tends to become problematic, even with spot cleaning etc. In my experience with snakes if a proper sanitization routine isn't followed health problems are frequent. respitary issues scale rot fungal infections, bacterial infections. In my opintion the risk outweighs the benefits. I only use materials that I can replace or sterilize with either bleach or heat in my snake set ups. plastic and fabric fake plants can look pretty good if you approach it right.

Depending on the size of you enclosure a small sturdy potted tree with a piece of plywood screwed to the base of the pot for stabilization may be more practical.

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Any pics of the guy? Olives are pretty uncommon in the herp hobby over here in the States.
I'll second that.

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Thanks for the advice (and smashing my dream ) but thats kinda what i was thinking anyway...

may just have to get elaborate with the sticks and rocks which is a shame because it will be quite a large enclosure

ill chase some photos up and put them on here soon, unfortunately she is not living with me at the moment on account of needing a new enclosure
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what do you think about building a large pond into the rocks given that she needs a large water bowl to bathe in, if i filter the water via a sump and keep a few fish in there (small fast fish) it should be fine i think, as far as sanitization goes.
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That sounds like it should be okay, as long as the snake can get out of the water easily. Like reefkprz said, just be sure to keep it clean by doing water changes every so often.

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heres the pic for those of you who were intersted
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what do you think about building a large pond into the rocks given that she needs a large water bowl to bathe in, if i filter the water via a sump and keep a few fish in there (small fast fish) it should be fine i think, as far as sanitization goes.
I don't think any filtration can keep the water suitable for fish, if a snake that size happens to "go" in the water.
Unless there's A LOT of water.

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I don't think any filtration can keep the water suitable for fish, if a snake that size happens to "go" in the water.
Unless there's A LOT of water.
I would tend to think along these lines as well, since the snake has to drink the water, merely filtering the feces is not suitable. its would be like you hooking and aquaclear up to your toilet and drinking out of it without flushing.
its just not sanitary. the snakes water should be changed and the dish washed daily, or everyother day if she/he hasn't been in it, but the dish shouldnt be cleaned less than every 2 days whether the snake uses it or not just to prevent bacterial growth and algal growth in the water dish.

I am sorry I keep smashing your dreams with my advice. Unfortunately I know a lot of these pitfall both from attempting similar ideas with various reptiles, and from the results of set ups similar to this with the vetrinary care (my wife works at a vet) and we both do animal rescues and fostering. I have seen some rather drastic health issues from well intentioned owners that were simply trying to provide a natural environment.

About the best advice I can give you is to try and set up a climate correct tank and do whatever decorating inside the boundaries of easy to clean. like the fake plant runners that can be wrapped around branches, they look real enough and can be thrown in a wash load with light bleach for sterilization (on delicate cycle if you don't want to mangle them).
there are many reasons why many of us herp nuts tend towards simplistic setups. cleanliness is one of the biggest.

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