Geosesarma Sp. with frogs? - The Planted Tank Forum
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 01-26-2017, 05:07 AM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 14
Geosesarma Sp. with frogs?

Hello there.

Im planning on making a 37 gallon tropical land/water tank and I was looking at 2 different things I wanted to stock it with. Vampire crabs or some kind of small to mid sized tropical amphibian (dart frogs or bumblebee toads for example) and was wondering if they could be housed together.

They both require generally similar temperature and humidity requirements (I would go for the closest match for those requirements) and both eat easily farmed wingless fruit flies though the crabs are omnivorous so if there were to be competition different foods would be supplied.

Do any of you think this can be done? And if so, what would you recommend to go with the crabs? (as I have not decided on anything specific except the Geosesarma)

Thank you.
Mean Green is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 6 (permalink) Old 01-26-2017, 04:11 PM
Algae Grower
 
Dr_Hoatzin's Avatar
 
PTrader: (5/86%)
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 86
It's possible. Of course the frogs will likely predate any baby crabs, and the crabs may take a small frog...so it really comes down to priorities and what you're wanting to accomplish. You'd want the water section to be pretty minimal, not much more than a shallow puddle.
Dr_Hoatzin is offline  
post #3 of 6 (permalink) Old 01-27-2017, 01:08 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 14
thank you.
I do not intend to breed any of them so the baby eating problem is not one im worried about.
But what you said about the water is what caught my attention. Is a large amount of water dangerous for dart frogs? because the Geosesarma from what I've seen and heard need a decent amount of water, quarter of the tank at least (so they can molt and rest with minimal stress).
Mean Green is offline  
 
post #4 of 6 (permalink) Old 01-29-2017, 03:36 PM
Algae Grower
 
Dr_Hoatzin's Avatar
 
PTrader: (5/86%)
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 86
Yes, most dart frogs require only shallow ponds or film canisters or water cupped in plants for breeding, and they may drown in deep water features. Neither the crabs or dart frogs require a large water feature; high humidity, moist substrate, and regular misting will keep most of them happy even without a water feature. You'll need an adequate false bottom and probably a drilled drainage hole with bulkhead fitting to remove pooling water if you forego the water feature, and will want a fan or two to keep your plants' leaves from being too wet after misting in the closed setup.

I'd highly recommend reading up on build projects over on Dendroboard--if you use the search function and don't find the answers you need then ask them, it's a very responsive and experienced group and very committed to dart frog conservation and ethical husbandry.
Dr_Hoatzin is offline  
post #5 of 6 (permalink) Old 02-02-2017, 06:16 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 14
Thanks!
Mean Green is offline  
post #6 of 6 (permalink) Old 02-07-2017, 11:44 PM
Planted Member
 
toadpher's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Austin, TX United States
Posts: 264
I wouldn't keep small frogs like darts together with crabs. The risk of damage to the frogs from the crabs is high and irresponsible husbandry in my opinion. I like your idea but think these are the wrong tank mates.
toadpher is offline  
Reply

Tags
amphibians, coexist, frogs, tropical, vampire crabs

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Planted Tank Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome