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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 03-26-2010, 08:32 PM Thread Starter
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Looking for Salamanders/Newts

Hey all, so I have my heart set on red salamanders from the Pseudotriton genus. I initially thought 'Northern Red Salamander' but there are a couple subspecies as well. Does anyone have any idea where I can get these? I emailed one person out of tons of sites I've looked through, and I'm waiting to see if he still has them in stock. I just became a member of Caudata.org to ask them, but I haven't had my account accepted just yet. I figured, hey! I'm sure there are some amphibian lovers on here!

I'm also considering golden mantella frogs. I just really want something around these colors to pop in my terrarium. Breeder/site suggestions welcome!
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why not do poison dart frogs over the mantellas? they are so much hardier now that alot of them are captive born...
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I was thinking about those, too..P: I can't decide, but first and foremost I'd like P. r. ruber.
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good luck, US native species are tough to come by, especially with all the reptile bans starting to happen...
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I know a lot on this kinda stuff. Do you want a terrestrial or aquatic salamander/newt? Where I'm from species are few in the wild and hard to find. I don't know about NC natives but I have kept FBNs and Paramesotriton chinensis. They are both from china. I've seen red salamanders for sale though just one word AWESOME Don't know much on darts or mantellas though sorry, but hope this helps!

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I know a lot on this kinda stuff. Do you want a terrestrial or aquatic salamander/newt? Where I'm from species are few in the wild and hard to find. I don't know about NC natives but I have kept FBNs and Paramesotriton chinensis. They are both from china. I've seen red salamanders for sale though just one word AWESOME Don't know much on darts or mantellas though sorry, but hope this helps!
Hi there, I plan to keep the tank semi-aquatic, and P. ruber requires this kind of set-up. I've recently been doing more research and decided that, if they're too impossible to find, or if I couldn't find one myself (I'm in NC, after all)..then I'll consider a more common one such as the Marbled Salamander or two-lined, then go down the list..cave and long-tailed salamanders also fit the color I'm looking for. We'll see what I can find!
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Another one thats in NC (not sure what area) is the red-spotted newt (Notophthalmus viridescens viridescens) not sure if its semi-aquatic though. But it looks kinda similar.
I had kinda of an idea for a native species paludarium of Kansas and the Missouri river area. Was going to catch what I could(legally) and maybe buy a catfish or bluegill if I have to.

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Northern Red Salamander- I'm pretty sure this is a specie that would be illegal to keep, but maybe there are a couple states in which it isn't threatened. Perhaps one of the subspecies you mentioned.

I know of a couple of marbled salamander breeding spots near St. Louis. I found some larvae when I first got out of the army and that's what they turned out to be. Very fun experience! In a paladarium setup I'm unsure if they would be very interesting as they are "mole" salamanders and prefer to be borroughed or hidden. I released mine at the breeding site I found them at one a wet day.

Notophthalmus viridescens viridescens, once they reach adulthood, spend the rest of their lives fully aquatic and breeding- the great thing about this species is, at least the last time I checked, it is very common, not threatended, can be found occasionally in petstores, can be ordered from some science supply websites, and it is not shy in a paladarium setup and will spend a lot of time swimming around, yada yada...

I personally would love to have tiger salamander's but they wouldn't be kept in a paladarium,.. just a nice moist substrate. I've heard they recognize you when you feed them and even beg. They are also as distributed as the species above and there are at least a few subspecies. Sometimes old school baitshops will have something bass fisherman call waterdogs... Tiger Salamander Larvae!!

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