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Guess who's back... Back again!

So I've been planning to build a pond since I got my condo two years ago. The catch? I'm on the second floor .

Right now the main pond is a 8x2x2 foot rectangle. There will be additional boxes added over time. Some for edibles, some for trees, and some for button quail. It'll be a really amazing project once completed. I've been dreaming and planning it for a while. It's a bit too arid in az for my liking all the time.

Current occupant is a native soft shell turtle. It also contains a bag of aqua soil. I need a few more bags...

It will eventually be for breeding some of my favorite nano fish and inverts. I figure they'll like the biofilm that grows.



















More info and specs will come in time. The hoa threatened to fine me and I had to take down the cubic trellis I was making so that photo is older but shows the full deck.



So I'll fight that battle another day.

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Awesome write up, can't wait to see it finished. Yeah I feel your pain with HOAs they can be a huge pain when you wanna do something a little different.
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Best of luck with the new project, it looks pretty involved!





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I don't think I've ever heard a good thing about HOAs... Awesome enthusiasm, though, interested to see how this comes along!


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Good luck on your project. Not to be a wet blanket but your pond may weigh up to 2000 lbs. when filled with water. Condos have not been known for their superior workmanship. No wild parties on the deck.
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Hi Andrew,

Quick question, did you do the calcs on total weight, pounds per sq foot, and make sure you did not have a load bearing issue? That is a lot of weight up that high; I calculate close to 1 ton of water or 125 pounds per square foot. Most decks are designed for 50 pounds per square foot without additional enhancements that might be done for a hot tub for example.

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Good to see you back Andrew!
Looks like an awesome project, but i would be terrified of the possible consequences... that's a LOT of weight for a balcony.
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Roy while I am not an architect the 50 psf is low. For example if you weigh 150 lbs you would fall through the deck as would I at 200 lbs. however I agree that 2000 lbs is a concern.
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Hi Andrew,

Quick question, did you do the calcs on total weight, pounds per sq foot, and make sure you did not have a load bearing issue? That is a lot of weight up that high; I calculate close to 1 ton of water or 125 pounds per square foot. Most decks are designed for 50 pounds per square foot without additional enhancements that might be done for a hot tub for example.

Yes I did. It's sitting evenly above the load bearing support which is a 6 by 12 on to of concrete pillars. It should be fine. I calculate it'll be around 2000 pounds of static weight. This said, I'm keeping a close eye on it and still need to fill it the other half way.

Static weight vs dynamic weight is the concern. It's different from a fat dude walking around up there .


It's good to be back. I also have a 55g hex in the works for cpd and cpo or maybe Taiwan bees. Then on the dry side I have a 4 by 4 by 8 foot vivarium in the works... (Height still being decided.) it'll be built in the wall. Probly have about 125 gallons of water. Maybe 300 full system with sump.

So yeah. I've got a full summer planned.

Stay tuned. Cpd, and crs will be going into the pond along with pigmy Cory cats and ottos and précis (maybe) with moss and tiger lilies and stuff over time. Over the weekend I collected micro fauna from a local pond to help get that stuff established quicker. I still need more daphnia and black worms though. So if anyone has extras, please let me know.

I also tossed in a dozen ghost shrimp over the weekend for the turtle. That guy will be moving into another container in a few weeks.

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