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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 03-10-2013, 04:15 PM Thread Starter
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Suggestions on plants/fish for my first pond

Hey, I've never set-up a pond before, but I'm planning on creating a small container pond this Summer. I live in New York, so this will only be a Summer-time project. I'm not looking to raise Koi or grow lily pads or anything like that. I'm mainly interested in growing some stem plants for their emersed growth and flowers. Although, I am also interested in keeping a few interesting bog plants or something like that that you wouldn't normally see in an aquarium. I'm thinking of breeding endlers or some other small fish like that in there as well, not sure yet. As this will be my first pond, any suggestions for flora/fauna will be greatly appreciated, thanks!
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What about things like star grass, bog bean, arrow heads, bog iris, and certain lilys (spider lily). Those are a few that I have in my pond that do well.

As far as fish go I have rosy red minnows and shubunkins. They over winter in my pond, of course I'm in Alabama and the water never freezes.
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Parrot's feather for emersed growth, Floating Hearts and Water Hyacinths for Flowers - all easy to grow...
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Suggestions on plants/fish for my first pond

Lizards tail and Bacopa caroliniana are my favorites but I like to keep it simple.

Edit: the great thing about these plants is that you can bring some clippings in and slowly submerse them in a display tank for the winter. The bacopa has very fragrant flowers and the lizards tail has heart shaped leaves which grow quite large and more arrowhead shape when emersed but become compact and fuller when submersed. Neither of these plants are demanding of light and will thrive in most conditions. I plant my bacopa at the small catchment at the bottom of my wall fall. It loves it and so do the frogs! Plus with the constant disturbance from the fall it makes that part of the yard smell great.

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Shubs are still goldfish and get to 9-18 inches long. NOT a good container summer pond.
Any kind of livebearer would do great, how hot does your summer get? Don't get any tiny fish that can't handle the heat, as the water in a container will shoot up with the air temp.

I release my platy in my 3k koi pond. They breed like mad in there and I scoop them all up for winter.

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Endlers will breed like mad, you will only need a few to get started.

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I did a 25g container pond last summer. had a small powerhead running a mini waterfall, planted with wisteria, parrots feather, rotala, and duckweed and frogbit. I threw a half dozen or so swordtails in it. When I tore it down in early fall I had roughly 2 dozen swordtails!
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I have a guppy pool. It's a no brainer. Though I started out with a tropical fish pool, thanks to guppy breeding habits now most of the fish are guppies.

That doesn't mean the other fish died though. I have a bunch of different kinds, and apart from dying of old age seem to being doing as well as the guppies, and one egg layer has mastered reproducing on its own in the pool. LOL

It's a tiny, native fish called Bluefin killifish which grow longer but , because they are a bit skinnier than a male guppy.

They are trouble free killifish, and the males are very colorful.

They don't require any special handling like other killis that need some dry time to reproduce Etc. and live as long as guppies.

What you want to create is actually very close to ideal conditions for those guys.

In fact the person I bought them from kept them alive during the summer in mop buckets. They are swamp fish and can easily survive conditions that would kill most tropical fish.

I've had neon tetras in there for over a year as well.

Despite their reputation for being delicate, I have found them to be as hardy as the guppies surviving all sorts of accidents as I changed things to find the right set up for me. They are supposed to die when water drops to 60degrees, but they survived that a few times (due to a heater mishaps in winter).

In fact I have a variety of tetras in there, and they all seem to do rather well, and much better than my experience putting them in an inside tank.

It makes me wonder if their reputation for being delicate has far more to do with being unable to cope with the extreme water chemistry that is an aspect of keeping them in 20 or 30 gallon aquariums more than actually being simply delicate.

In the pool I'm guessing the much greater ability of a much larger volume of water to buffer such things and prevents them from exceeding their tolerance.

IF YOU WANT SMALL and active get bumblebee gobies, and no they don't need a brackish set up. People seem to think brackish means something distinct from fresh water, but that's not exactly true.

They also have done quite well, and are constantly patrolling the pool as if they are the sheriff and deputy always on the look out for something new and unusual. LOL

The brackish water that many guides say fish like puffers, bumblebee gobis and dwarf mud crabs require would be "freshwater" to our senses, because were we to drink it, we would NOT taste salt at all.

It's also fresh enough for freshwater plants to do fine.

An example of a brackish river is the Texas Brazos river. If you ask people who know of the river however most would say it was a freshwater river, and think you were crazy to call it brackish since that's where the city of Waco gets its drinking water without desalinization. LOL

Only when I added some dwarf mud crabs did I add a minuscule amount of salt.

Also at 1" pygmy sunfish might do great. Since they are native they can tolerate extreme conditions with little effort. Males are beautifully colored and far more likely to thrive with far little effort.
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