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Large Natural Pond With Possible Carp Issue

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I have land in upstate new york with a very large pond. the idea was to make it as natural as possible, which turned out to be very successful. there are sunnies, largemouth bass, snapping turtles, box turtles, frogs, muskrats, salamanders, loads of plants, and unfortunately carp. i'm assuming they are silver carp because that's the color of their body. i know that it is very easy for them to overpopulate a pond in a short amount of time, so i'm wondering if all the natural predators in the pond will actually be able to control the carp population. if i had to guess, the pond is about 50 feet in length, 20 feet deep (only on one side), and 20-30 feet across. the pond can hold a lot of fish and there are at least 20 bass that are around 12 inches long.

all i'm basically asking for is what are the chances of silver carp overpopulating a pond that holds largemouth bass and other predators? also, the pond has been around for about 20 years so we're not exactly sure when the carp first showed up.
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if you need any more info, let me know and i'll do the best i can. i'll also try to find some pictures of the pond and some of its inhabitants.
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idk if you know this or not but the asian carp is taking over lake erie, and people really cant do much to stop it, but the pond sounds awesome! i have 3 turtles XD

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Cull out the adult carps. The babies should be food for the large mouth.


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You probably have normal carp and not silver carp. I don't think silver carp can spawn successfully in ponds from what I remember when I did a report on aquaculture.

I agree that you should start fishing them out. I doubt that you'll be able to keep them control with any predator in a pond that size.

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Other than trap netting them (very difficult with 20' of depth), you're pretty much limited to angling or poison (rotenone). Since I have no idea what permits are required by DEC to reclaim the pond by killing the fish, it's time to start working on your dough ball and bolt rig technique.
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so it sounds like i'm going to have an unlimited supply of bait for the bass then ;]
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Carp love corn! Go to the local bate shop and tell them free carp fishing on your pond, you might get some fishermen to take care of it. Or go out in a boat and drive two steel post 10 or 15 feet apart at one end of the pond, connect two wire one on top of each post run them back to shore. Dump 2 or 3 cans of corn ( or something carp like ) between the two post, when the carp are starting to eat really good connect the wires ( one + and one - ) to a power source like a generator, it will kill or stun all the fish between the two post. And this is illegal so it's just a story.

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You have no catfish right? Get a crap ton of jug lines and throw lines with corn on them and leave em for a night or two. Drag in your hull and start all over. That should probably wipe out your problem relatively quickly.... In texas you can have 100 hooks out per person. You and 5 friends could clear out a pond of its breeding carp in about a month I would say.
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Shooting carp with bow and arrow is a blast.
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post #11 of 12 (permalink) Old 06-21-2011, 05:37 AM
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Sounds like a good week of fishing to me.
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There are native catfish around, i would be careful and do a successful ID before angling. Can I get a picture? do they have barbels, and huge scales? If they are non native carp, usually the state doesnt have any laws on spearing, bow and arrow or other angling methods. if they are non native, they can become a huge problem, fast. I'd say lure them into a shallow area with a carcass of some sort, then use a long net to push them onto shore. although i do like the other ideas as well!

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