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post #31 of 36 (permalink) Old 06-10-2019, 04:59 AM
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Couple weeks ago I tried to order potassium on ebay, got scammed by some user from mexico with a 99.7% rating, go figure. Ebay deleted them and refunded me, ordered from another user and got it in 4 days. SOO I have flourish potassium now as I am convinced those spottings are related to that. (internet professor I was )



Bottle says to dose twice a week so that I shall. I did some rearranging, put the trident java fern on the wood and put the 3 anubia on some stone. The hob was starting to give fits on priming, then shut off randomly once so I replaced it with a aqueon 75led pro, and since I was there picked up a Compacta amazon sword just to see.



Here goes this test, after this, I have nothing left to give.



Fresh water change 60% and I skipped last week just to testing. Fry "tank" top left, 5 left!

62363185_1048908965308718_7347603932853567488_n by Corey S, on Flickr



Trident, anubias, and compacta amazon bottom right

62394609_2439863789397676_4263551143533084672_n by Corey S, on Flickr



The java fern the baby leaves are at the point of no return, they always would get to this point and then start to freckle. Hopefully they wont this time, they are looking good. Nice MTS fest I have going on too.

62431672_2092613504183268_2419864834620260352_n by Corey S, on Flickr



GSA still alive, nothing crazy still.


Ultimately I think your plants actually look pretty decent. Canít wait to see if the potassium does it for you!


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post #32 of 36 (permalink) Old 06-24-2019, 03:25 AM Thread Starter
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2 week update, I would like to say the potassium indeed looks to be the missing link. I skipped a w/c last week to as another experiement and all went well. Although still tiny amounts of gsa, the patches easily seen are now gone and its only seen up close. We will see how the next month goes, maybe some light spacing might be needed in the future. Since the dosing the java ferns perked up dam near instantly. The leaves are more erect, taller and no more freckling! The old freckled leaves also seem to have halted their death, usually they would spot, then go yellow then white in half a week, its been 2 weeks and only 1 went white. This is exciting. I also bought another compacta amazon and the smaller one I had seems to grow 2-3 new leaves a week and this new bigger one is already shot up 2. I also put some flourish tabs underneath, keep me good for 3 months, hopefully the 125 will be setup to transfer by then. Need to control this 29 first. SO ya that thats the update, atleast its a happy one!

64850316_2340297309559799_6369762410676355072_n by Corey S, on Flickr


Erect, green and standing tall! Plenty of new growth
65101915_2556179461081047_809986477898334208_n by Corey S, on Flickr


Trident got its butt kicked, all leaves have freckles but no yellowing or white since dosing and slowly new leaves are comming in.
64881698_456148994960243_505225068977061888_n by Corey S, on Flickr



Thanks everyone for the help, reading, insight and knowledge this is fun. Ill update again in a month or so hopefully everything should be good!
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Thanks for documenting! Just starting out on a low tech tank myself and I enjoy learning from your experiences here and on the forum. =) Looking forward to next update!
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Im back! Well I made the mistake of not q/t or bleach dipping those topfin petsmart plants they sell in tubes. After I added those amazon compactas it introduced a bacteria to the tank and literally killed 1 fish every single day no matter how many water changes I did, bacterial/viral treatments, salt, prime EVERYTHING I threw at it. So the tank sat empty for almost a month while just the plants and snails remained. Decided to stop by the pet store and saw 2 little baby fantails I had to have. After a week they started showing that cloudy eye that killed all the last fish, so in the end it took 2 weeks of E.M. Erythromycin and all is well. SO NOW fast forward it seems the compactas are having problems?

I noticed just the very tips would start to turn clear, then it slooooowly travels down the leaf (weeks). The amazons are fed root tabs, but since these fish were small it was dam near impossible to get 5ppm of nitrate in a week. I got some Aquarium Co-op fert in the pump and that seems to have gotten my nitrates up to 10ppm so I just do water changes biweekly just to keep that number up. My phosphates were reading .25 so I bumped that to 5.0. I also maybe noticed a magnesium deficiency maybe with the veins being a little darker, maybe reddish than the rest of the leaves so I dumped a nice teaspoon in. Also seeing some GSA on the amazon compacta leaves.

At this point I might be pee'in into the wind lol so I came to posting. Good to say everything grew super excellent though!
Nitrate 10ppm
PH 8.0-8.5
GH 180 max on test
KH 240 max on test
Phosphate-5.0

P.S. The campacta leaves are twisted?

74461742_519298875580278_6972104949438087168_n by Corey S, on Flickr
75135943_441732963149807_5136786198890545152_n by Corey S, on Flickr
75422271_2692653344088081_5194873282221834240_n by Corey S, on Flickr
74701648_420185662215137_6488607230953259008_n by Corey S, on Flickr
70122632_490577661799752_1790297339982774272_n by Corey S, on Flickr
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Things arenít looking too bad. Have you considered adding co2? You donít need to go ham on it with those types of plants, just add a bit to aid in growth, would help with GSA and the like.

Regarding established leaves melting, that could indicate the plant is hungry for a mobile nutrient. Iíd recommend pruning off any and all damaged or struggling leaves then see how the new growth comes in.


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Still struggling with GSA but making some headway.

Excel doesnt seem to do much atleast with the amount I have been adding lately. What does seem to help when its on plants is adding phosphates during weekly water changes, trimming off leaves that are really really bad, adding a siesta midday. I ramp my 3.0 down to 5% for a couple hours midday and its really helping.

My tank is nowhere near algae free but its much better then it use to be.


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