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Femto tanks - REALLY?

I've been seeing a lot of pictures of "tanks" that are supposedly only a few inches or so on some other forums. They usually look like full fledged Amano style setups, and all I can think is "photoshop." Not trying to be rude if anyone here really has one of these, but has anyone seen one in person? I've seen tiny little setups that are believable. For example, I searched this forum for "femto" tanks and found a shot glass with a couple nodes of ambulia and someone who had put a strand of moss in a lightbulb. Those are believable to me. I just don't see anyone questioning these... but REALLY? A lot of them don't even have anything to provide a size reference (a few do... still, photoshop can do a lot of things). I guess I'm just skeptical, but I have a hard time even believing in this, which is a plausible size at 38 cm long:

http://www.aquascapingworld.com/foru...stal-lake.html

Sure, the size of the tank is doable, but tell me that "lake" and waterfall is not photoshopped. I just don't find it believable that that's a piece of shell or something as claimed. But when we get into the range of 4 inches or less... then I really question stuff like this.

http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/f...aquariums.html

Notice how you also never see any journals of these things detailing how they were set up. Does no one else question this?

Once again, sorry if anyone here really does make these, I'm not trying to be critical, but I am a huge skeptic when it comes to the idea that making such a detailed and perfect scape is possible in so small a space when it's hard enough just doing it in a normal size tank. And what kind of plants are really that small, other than a few mosses?
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Try to explore your own abilities in aquascaping. Make one yourself!!! There is even one aquascaper that has made a functional waterfall.


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Most of those tiny scapes use Mosses and Riccia. Also Dwarf Hairgrass would be a background plant. I'm sure it takes time and not all of these would be long term scapes but setup for the short term for pictures and whatnot. Also i've seen pictures of one that was around 100ml that they did daily waterchanges of 10ml with a syringe on.

Octopus' tanks are amazing and sure he has been doing it for alot longer than I.

I do enjoy my ADA Mini M though.

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Yes they are real, remember most of them are quite transient. In general, they are grown very specifically for a few very precisely staged moneyshots. Think of them like one of those ultra designed shop window displays you see in big budget retail establishments in major cities. That may help you wrap your mind around them.
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Here is a website to check out.

http://www.akvaristikayu.com/Octopus...ng/Gallery.htm

an 8ml tank at the bottom
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Creating waterfalls and such is not an issue. Talk to anyone who is into model trains, tabletop war gaming etc. But like others say, many of these tanks were created for the photo shot, so the creator does not have to worry about sustainability.

Slobodan makes great scapes, but he needs to work on his naming. "Return to Dream," brrrr....cheesy!


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These waterfalls/rivers look very much like plastic wrap to me.

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Just a comment and not trying to hi-jack. To me these femto tanks look like sand art in the bottles that was so popular in the seventies. You just want to grab it and shack it up and start all over. Does this mean people will be breeding shrimp for size and trying to get a tea cup CRS? OK thank you for listening

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Hey aquaphish, I'm not trying to be offensive here. Just seemed like something to be skeptical of at first with no "how to" or step by step posts available, and very few size comparison pictures. They certainly are very beautiful, but I guess it makes more sense if they are just meant as temporary art pieces and not real functional aquariums.
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